Thread: Use the right torque values.....

Had the vehicle been serviced by the owner or by a workshop?

These are all pretty standard things to find on a TD5. While I concur about torque settings, it doesn't take a genius to work out how tight is tight.

The AC pump was probably the rear right. The centrifugal oil filter cap is common. It is easy enough to just put longer bolts in and re-tighten correctly. The oil filter being too tight is an easy mistake to make on the TD5.

The rest of it is just poor. You know what is worse, mine was serviced from new by the dealership mechanic the car was purchased from and had the same problems and more. Bolts put in the wrong holes in transfer case, stripped bolts on the rear diff housing, the heater pipe across the back of the motor was jammed between the auto and the motor where the bolt was meant to go through. The list goes on and on.

You and I share the exact same frustration and it is not unreasonable to expect things to be done correctly (especially as it is no harder) when you pay copious amounts of money for a "service."

Obviously this is only fair in the case it was not serviced by an owner who also had insufficient ability.

Hi Ron,
In answer to you there is evidence of LR plus some independents having a go, plus in latter years I suspect that some home mechanics have had a go, the gent I bought the vehicle from was what appeared to be a caring LR owner who had entrusted his pride and joy to others and was just enjoying driving the marque.

So repairs have begun, helicoils is some of the stripped parts, always enjoy installing them. Sump plug hole is now 1/2 inch NPT and awaiting a Fumoto valve to fill the hole, only screw it in once and use the tap to drain the oil, engineer out the problem, and yes I got the lock for the tab. Spinner yeap, longer bolts, oil cooler helicoiled, new O-ring installed.

Head is still away being "serviced" so I'll helicoil the pressure regulator thread when it returns.

The three Amigos are still proving troublesome, have to wait for the engine to be going again to progress.

Feeling the joy..............

For me this is a sign of people doing the servicing doing so by feel and having spent too much time working on big lumps of steel that breaks tools first. Some torque settings are that low that even doing until "tight" can be too high.

Originally Posted by DiscoDB

Some torque settings are that low that even doing until "tight" can be too high.

That's one reason I'd like a smaller torque wrench (particularly for motorbikes). Mine is a W&B 1/2" drive.

I've struggled with the oil filter but I'm the one that puts them on
Sump plug is always torqued to spec.
Centrifugal filter is done by feel, but never tight, just 'solid', never had a leak so far. The threads in the housing are stripped, they were helicoiled by someone but they've started to disintegrate so I'm careful about that.

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Originally Posted by p38arover

That's one reason I'd like a smaller torque wrench (particularly for motorbikes). Mine is a W&B 1/2" drive.

Yep - the old Fords I worked on 20 years ago I needed a large torque wrench to make sure I did everything tight enough. Today I am using 1/4" and 3/8" torque wrenches to make sure I am not over tightening.

You have hit 1 of my pet hates, the two turns past stripped service "tech"!! I agree totally, why is it so hard to use the specced torques? It seems as if they take it as an afront to their manhood or a weakness !!! A classic was when I got a flat front on my "new" toy the cat backhoe. Wheel nuts supposed to be 340 ft pds, not a low figure but well with in a 3/4 drive breaker bar normally. 6' of pipe with a 84 kg jumping on it and didnt even squeak !!!!!!!! Took that plus a shocking with a 3kg sledge a number of times to get them to move!
Just far to many gorillas with toothache wielding spanners Im afraid :/