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    Td5 manual gearbox woes

    Hi all,
    Just got back from a trip that went NOTHING like the plan. Weather gods decided we hadn't offered the correct sacrifices at the right time or something.... Got to Oodnadatta OK but then....


    To the issue.


    Around 800k's ago the gearbox started to make a sort of clunky, ringing whine in 2nd, 3rd and 5th gear which is getting worse. No noise in 4th. I suspect the internals of the box now look something like what's shown here R380 rebuild after 5th gear failure or worse.


    Seeing I don't have the facilities, the space or the tools to rebuild the box myself I figure I have two options. Get the existing box rebuilt here in the Latrobe Valley (Vic) by what used to be Massaro's or get them to fit an already reconditioned box that I'll get from somewhere.
    What would be the best suggestion ? If it's to get a reconditioned box from somewhere, where would be the best and what sort of cost supplied and fitted ? If it's to get the old Massaro's to rebuild it, what sort of cost would I be looking at ?


    Thanks for all advice...:-)


    I'll post a couple of pics of car pre and post Oodnadatta to Marla in the pics thread when I get to it - gotta get rid of some of the red dust from everything first. I'd forgotten how red dirt proof Land Rovers aren't...:-)) Camper trailers let it in too - at least ours does.
    Cheers,
    Mark F...
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    I guess it comes down to time, money, trust in the repairer....

    While I have rebuilt Gearboxes for many years myself (as it was the trust issue of getting others to do it) I simply don't have the time resources to do it now.

    I recommend for a trusted source to get a box from Ashcroft Transmissions in the U.K and have someone locally fit it for you.

    http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co...gearboxes.html

    Regards
    Daz

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    We don't rebuild anymore either as it is just uneconomical in time vs return. As Darren said either Ashcrofts ( which we have never had an issue with their stuff) or a 'local' shop that we use in Sydney Award Diffs who also do in warranty stuff for landrover incidentally.

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    I would go Ashcroft as they upgrade the main bearings to heavy duty I had my original d2 box rebuilt never again cost about $6000 fitted Ashcroft would have cost less and be way stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laney View Post
    I would go Ashcroft as they upgrade the main bearings to heavy duty I had my original d2 box rebuilt never again cost about $6000 fitted Ashcroft would have cost less and be way stronger.
    Looks like the Ashcroft option will be the way to go. Gonna be a pain though - the Disco is my daily drive so a hire car will be required which will up the cost a bit. Today I shall grovel under the car and get the grabox serial number and do the ordering thing. Does anyone have an idea of the time it'll take to get here ? Answering my own question (in part) I guess it all depends on the freight options - there's bound to be one that gets it here before I order it but it'll cost a right arm, left leg and first born and another option that'll take until at least the next ice age...:-)


    Are there any well known pitfalls with freight, customs and AQIS ? I'd like to steer clear of 'em if possible.


    And while the box is out the CDL selector can be installed as well - will get the Ashcroft bits sent as well. Transfer case has the innards so the selector is all that's required.
    Last edited by Markf; 20th March 2016 at 10:09 AM. Reason: LEft out a bit.
    Cheers,
    Mark F...
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    2002 D2 Td5 auto - current AKA The Citrus Money Pit
    2000 Disco 2 Td5 Manual - dead and gone
    197? Range Rover - gone
    1973 SWB SIII Diesel, 1968 SWB IIA Petrol, 195? SI Petrol - all gone
    Outback Campers Sturt
    http://jandmf.com

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    I had an autobox sent over last July or so.

    1/ Source a box on ebay in the UK and get sent to Ashcrofts to avoid the core charge. Never looked at the price for the manual, but it will likely save about 1/2 the core charge.
    Do this first so that the import costs don't include the core charge.

    2/ We used DHL. We got stung by DHL, NOT CUSTOMS, DHL, for BS charges. Verify with Ashcrofts and DHL that the price paid is the price paid. I ended up with another $400 of DHL made up crap on my bill. And DHL don't respond to complaints...

    3/ Customs and AQIS will be involved as it will be over a $1000 and will come in a non-discreet form Get a broker to do it, I had a look at doing it myself, but to be honest it was easier to have them do it, I think that was about another $200.

    I have a thread with the exact costs in it on here.

    If you aren't doing any other mods a new box can be in and out in a day, at home, in the garage. Is the manual cable selected or still mounted to the box? If mounted then you have to do the centre console out, otherwise you might be able to do it from underneath only.

    Don't forget to think about ordering some other stuff while you are there and it makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markf View Post
    Does anyone have an idea of the time it'll take to get here ? A
    I ordered engine mounts from the UK, they took 6 days to get here. Air freight is quick, and expensive.
    Ask Ashcroft, they should know.
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    Interesting. I had a reputable LR indy overhaul the 5 speed (v8 but same box) and transfer case and put in a new clutch for a lot less than that. it had an ashcroft synchro kit put through the 5 speed box, kit through ttsnsfrr case, new bearing on 5th, new layshaft bearings etc in the TC, throw out bearing for clutch and some other stuff. All up about $4k.

    Cheers
    Quote Originally Posted by laney View Post
    I would go Ashcroft as they upgrade the main bearings to heavy duty I had my original d2 box rebuilt never again cost about $6000 fitted Ashcroft would have cost less and be way stronger.

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    The eBay to ashcrofts is a good idea. I wish I had done that when I replaced the one in my td5 Def.

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    I just bought some stuff from DLS, they traditionally use DHL to freigh @ $?75 for 20kg
    They trialled TNT as a cheaper option, ?35 for the same weight. 6 days from collection to doorstep as promised and as tracking suggested.

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