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    Dont forget though Evo the 4.5 odd litre straight 6 in the 100 series had to less cylinders and about another 600kg being hauled around all the time and in the real world the 6 and the 8 in the 100 series cruiser used a LOT more fuel than a D2 V8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    Dont forget though Evo the 4.5 odd litre straight 6 in the 100 series had to less cylinders and about another 600kg being hauled around all the time and in the real world the 6 and the 8 in the 100 series cruiser used a LOT more fuel than a D2 V8.

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    i'm not overly knowledgeable in the cruisers i'm afraid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    i'm not overly knowledgeable in the cruisers i'm afraid.
    You say that like it's a bad thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    You say that like it's a bad thing

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    1995 VS Clubsport

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    2002 VY SS Ute, 300kw
    2002 Disco 2, LS1 conversion

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    At the time LR was building there was I think, a fairly hefty tax penalty for motors over 2.5-3L in the UK and Europe ? Which dictated the market they wanted the most from. The good thing that came of it was some very nice small motors with a reasonable power to displacement ratio.

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    After a few days of driving I've got loads of codes and always in open loop. Turns out the ECU is from a 03 D2 with SAI. Apparently there is workaround which involves building a secondary air pump simulator to trick the ECU into thinking the pump is there and working.

    Might have to go that route if I can't find (struggling to!) a non SAI ECU from the USA.

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    Try a simple trick, see RAVE - Electrical library - Connector views - C0636 pin 16(black/orange wire in the middle plug of the ECU) , splice into this wire with a relay's coil as the other terminal to be connected to an ignition live

    i checked the diagram and from pure electronic point of view this is missing for the NAS ECU cos it monitors the SAI pump's relay coil as it manages it through the earth path, the pump itself gets feed through the relay's contact and direct earth so the ECU can't monitor it other way than through the relay's coil.

    i know too little about how the V8 engine works but from electronic management point of view this is the conclusion
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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    Thanks Sierrafery, I'm going try that tomorrow.

    I really hope this works because I put the 4.0 ECU back in this afternoon and it's a completely different truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sierrafery View Post
    Try a simple trick, see RAVE - Electrical library - Connector views - C0636 pin 16(black/orange wire in the middle plug of the ECU) , splice into this wire with a relay's coil as the other terminal to be connected to an ignition live

    i checked the diagram and from pure electronic point of view this is missing for the NAS ECU cos it monitors the SAI pump's relay coil as it manages it through the earth path, the pump itself gets feed through the relay's contact and direct earth so the ECU can't monitor it other way than through the relay's coil.

    i know too little about how the V8 engine works but from electronic management point of view this is the conclusion
    So is the slice wire from the ECU the output and the ignition live wire the input?

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    It's not about input or output now, it's about the SAI pump relay management, in a nutshell: one terminal of the relay's COIL(85) to live and the other(86) to ECU plug's pin 16, let the contact (30-87) ''in air'' cos on modells with SAI the pump relay is connected like this, it has live on one side of the coil and the ECU is connected to the other side managing it on the earth path if you see what i mean, the non-NAS modells dont have this relay at all... this way the ECU will not "know" that this relay/pump is missing

    anyway IMHO if the engine is running well, the fuel consumption is normal, no overheating or excessive smoke you should neglect fault codes and drive it without fear cos if the ECU is missing some input it goes to default without causing damage just that it stores a fault code, like when EGR or wastegate modulator is removed from diesels... though as i said i'm not a V8 man
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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