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Originally Posted by sierrafery
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This is the bit that I was interested in.Quote:
Originally Posted by sierrafery
EKA will remobilise it and make it start once after the input even with dead fob or receiver cos that's it's purpose, the passive remobilisation coil on the ignition barrel excites the fob to send a signal to the roof receiver so if one of those doesnt work EKA is needed cos using it the whole immobilisation process is over-ridden.
From the scant paper records I have I'm getting the feeling that:
- the dealer has not given the correct EKA number, the EKA number and KEY number as given by the dealer are basically identical and probably wrong, whereas Johntins for example says his two are entirely different;
- the first owner has had an access issue and has scratched around for a solution, hence we find '1515' (as remarked upon for NAS vehicles on other forums) scrawled on the top margin of an official A4 introduction to the EKA process;
- the first owner has either gone back to LRover for the correct number, which should be reflected in the VIN, or LRover have given him a new number unrelated to the VIN, or a third party has supplied another number unrelated to the VIN;
- the second owner submitted the VIN and got a number not noted anywhere in the paper work (dealer error?), and does not work when used as the EKA (first owner has somehow made a change).
Or I am hopeless at entering an EKA - mind my son (studying IT) was watching me like a hawk! At this stage we reasonably believe the EKA entry process is working (after 5 seconds holding key in the unlock door position, we get the expected blip to start entry), but the code is wrong (the possible but not wanted single blip at end of process, instead of two blips for success).
Getting the one remaining original fob button and roof pickup working together sounds like the next step. If that works then dive in with a reader and find out what number really is in the BCU. And I'm guessing the newer fob (2015 circuit) can't be 'introduced' until the BCU is active again.
Sure about that? Not arguing, just asking. Seems a little silly for a security system, but LR do have a history...Quote:
Originally Posted by steve_a
I find that piece of info disturbing...Quote:
Originally Posted by AK83
I can confirm that EKA can be changed cos i changed mine into a combination of small numbers(as my card's pin code which has nr 5 the greater), the original one contained a 12 and a 14 in it so it was hard to insert... though you can't do that if the vehicle is not unlocked with the associated fob so not too much security risk IMO
They most certainly are, and I'm happy to post pics, as I believe LR security has taken a quantum leap backwards, if reports out of the UK are to be believed. Why steal a nearly twenty year old Disco when you can steal a brand new one?Quote:
Originally Posted by workingonit
The EKA process is not as hard as it seems, although it is tedious. The Security Card spells it out. Mine is 08 01 01 01. ( No reason whatsoever to be shy about it ), so, turn key to unlock position ( This is, in my mind, the place you will get it wrong, who remembers which way you turn to unlock? ) for 5 seconds then turn to 'unlock' 8 times, then 1 then 1 then 1, then 1. each way. It always works.Quote:
Originally Posted by workingonit
It requires the horn, as you need to hear the beeps.
If you can't sort it, I'll bet there are some here who will take it off your hands...[bigwhistle]
Not so fast Johntins. I've only had it a day!!
Looks like we are going to play 'you show me yours and I'll show you mine'.
I believe you when you say your two numbers are different. What concerns me is that mine are not.
My Emergency Key Access Code is 07 03 02 06. My Key Number is 7 3 2 6. When the previous owner provided the VIN the number given was 8 6 7 14. Neither code works and why are they different?
The EKA process seems straight forward and I don't think we are making mistakes (I would prefer that we are making mistakes and someone would shine a magic light on the process), the horn is giving us the beeps and the vehicle is giving us the...um, motivation to move?
The previous owner tried, as did LRover and an independent - no indication from previous owner that those service providers thought the EKA system was not functioning as it should, just the numbers are problematic and they can't read the BCU.
The vehicle hasn't cost much so there is room for some increase in expenditure if it fixes the problem, as suggested a wreckers BCU that is not locked, with keys etc.
I'd love it if a Nanocom could get at the EKA in the BCU that is locked, but it doesn't make sense that you could get around a security system in that way. Once it is unlocked it would be a different story...
And there's no real hurry.
I should be cutting the rust out of the floor of the RRC, repairing the rusted chassis of the series 3 stage 1 Isuzu, refurbishing a 3 cylinder diesel ride on mower, finding out why there was a crunch noise in the quad bike gearbox when I hit the kickstart pedal and now won't start, find the electrical short in D1 black, find the water leak in D1 red (before the next wet), fix the injector pump leak in D1 blue, find the cause of fuel drain back in D1 green, cut the rust out of the toyota...
I'm wondering how stupid I'll need to be to defeat the BCU artificial intelligence.
OK. It must be said that all I was doing was offering help as I know it. Got that?? Good.Quote:
Originally Posted by workingonit
My security code is 08 10 10 10, and my key code is 7290. Those numbers are useless without the VIN, and if you figured it out and stole the car you'd be doing me a favour...... Nuff said. I don't believe that the numbers on the card are accurate. For what you have paid ( believe me, I would pay more ) I would pay what it takes to get the correct EKA and get the car unlocked. I would even pay what LRA asked. Why not?
Have you tried 08 06 07 14? Tough one to get right, but have you? Really, unlock for 5 seconds, then 8 times unlock, 6 times lock, 7 times unlock, then 14 times lock? And followed the procedure from there? Listen for the beeps etc.? It does take patience.
Any help is appreciated. It may well end up in the hands of LRover if they can fix it, but if I understand the previous owner correctly it has already been in their hands - the previous owner did indicate today that there had been some local staff movement and there is now someone on hand who really knows their stuff regarding these systems, and gave me a name. When I get time I may also have a chat to MR Automotive to see what they can offer. Regarding the EKA entry using the key, we get the beep to start the initial data entry, no beeps during entry, and final beep(s) to indicate success or failure (failure!). Is that your experience, that there are no beeps in the data entry phase, just beeps at beginning and end? We've tried 08 06 07 14 a few times, counting out aloud as we go...think we might try the two EKA codes again, a few times at different paces. I guess there is always the chance the mechanism in the drivers door could be faulty, there was some indication in other threads that lack of use of the lock and reliance on fob meant the lock got a bit gunked and was not giving good results when it came time to enter an EKA. And I still have to follow up on Sierrafery's suggestion about earthing, fingers crossed.