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    Alternator and Battery

    I have an issue with starting the car and looks like it happens after a long drive like 50km or so.

    I notice that after a long drive and when I have issue starting the car there are white dust in one of the terminal on the battery.

    Questions: is it the battery needs to be replaced or the alternator keep charging the battery even its already full thus creating the white dust.

    Thanks. Gus.

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    It may just be a loose battery terminal and the "Dust" is a result of the loose terminal arking on the battery post.
    Try tightening the terminals after giving them a flush with a kettle full of boiling water to clean them off
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    The terminals are very tight actually. The dust is around the bolts on the terminal.

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    White dust is probably sulphuric acid leaking out around the terminal where it goes through the plastic. I'd be budgeting for a new battery in the near future after you've checked charging voltage, battery capacity etc. Damn things don't last very long these days.

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    What Bee utey said,but also may be just corrosion.

    I would remove cables from battery posts,check for any corrosion where the battery terminals are bolted onto the posts.

    Clean up any corrosion,apply a smear of grease on the posts and fit them back on.then coat battery terminals and posts with a thin smear if grease.

    Even though battery terminals may be very tight,there could be corrosion between the battery posts and the clamps.

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    Thanks guys. Really appreciate.

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    And Carb Soda

    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    It may just be a loose battery terminal and the "Dust" is a result of the loose terminal arking on the battery post.
    Try tightening the terminals after giving them a flush with a kettle full of boiling water to clean them off
    Sounds more like corrosion but along with the hot water sprinkle Carb Soda on the terminal, does a great job of neutralising the corrosion.

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    You should check the main earth strap/lead that bolts to the block under the Alt for tightness,, I moved mine to just near the alt to be in plain sight--
    also the two small positive bolts at the rad end of the eng fuse box, these need to be clean and tightened to spec.
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    Hi Gus, as all above suggest, but also, next time you do a “long” drive, before you turn your motor off, measure the voltage at your cranking battery.

    Similar problems can occur if your alternator is running at to high a voltage.

    Anything over 14.7v will cook your battery and the fact you say it only happens after a “long” drive, sort of indicates this as an overcharging problem.

    A 50kms drive is actually a moderate drive but during shorter drives, your battery will be cold and can tolerate higher voltages.

    Driving for 50kms will allow the battery to get up towards normal engine bay temperatures and this is where higher voltages can cause the battery to gas.

    If your alternator is running to high, a longer than 50kms drive could easily cook and destroy your battery.

    So take some voltage measurements to rule out a high operating voltage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivesafe View Post
    ...

    A 50kms drive is actually a moderate drive but during shorter drives, your battery will be cold and can tolerate higher voltages.

    Driving for 50kms will allow the battery to get up towards normal engine bay temperatures and this is where higher voltages can cause the battery to gas.

    ....
    I think it's going to be a relative thing ...

    I drive 35klms to work and it takes 30mins .. 40 max!
    I drive 20klms to sisters house, but it takes 60mins on a goodday, 75ish on a typical day .. I turn around on a bad day!

    I had an old P6 V8 where the regulator got stuck at 1million volts or whatever.
    Drove 3+ hrs at least(maybe more) .. but had no idea.

    Cooked the battery really well all those additional volts(but those old Marhalls are like Lazarus).
    Car smelled badly, almost diesel like.
    Problem was that we'd be out hunting, and got a fox, chucked it in the boot in a bag, and headed home.
    so of course we assumed the the smell was the fox, but it turned out to be the boiled battery. Battery in the boot on the P6V8's, can't remember if they also have them in the 2000's I also had.

    I had trouble starting, took it to my dads mate, the auto elec, he checked stuff(I was too young and stupid to watch and learn), but I do remember he told me to watch the battery afterwards, and how to top it up with water.
    I know he said the regulator was crook..

    Regulators fail in strange ways too.
    An old SD-1 rover V8 I had had a strange one while I was 3 hrs from home (again)!
    Damned thing stopped charging at higher speeds(ie. above idle). So battery was depleting whilst I was driving along.
    Eventually worked out that if I sat for about 30mins idling, it'd slowly come good. So I could drive for about an hour, then sit somewhere off the road for 30mins.
    3 hr drive back from Grampians took about 6hrs.

    At about 1AM, was about 1klm from home and car started to cut out(battery again) and I had the option of stopping again for a few mins, or .. race up the hill and then coast down the hill.
    being closer to 20yo back then, of course option 2 felt to be the best at the time .. so I also turned off the headlights too, keeping the parkers on tho.
    Of course Mr Plod was out on his donut run!
    Pulled me up to book me for no lights, and I explained the story.
    Showed him my ID to prove I lived literally 100m away .. and hence why I was driving with no lights.
    And I showed him with the lights on, at idle they were bright and fine, but even with a bit over 1K RPM they'd dim badly.
    I convinced him I'm not your typical burnout hoon .. (driving an crappy old SD1!! ... I'd been the laughing stock of the HZ/XC V8 hoon world back then!) .. and he let me off this time.

    So like drivesafe said .. check your voltages.
    And as it's yet to be determined what battery type, if it's not fully sealed, and has a way to access the acid level.. best to check that too.
    if it's low, probably boiling/boiled away, which means over voltage as said.
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