Never EVER am I going to a dealer again!!!

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Originally Posted by garrycol

The Craftsman relates to Rank - eg LAC - Leading Air Craftsman - it is a Rank not a Skill category.

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Umm, I was a Craftsman ‘crafty’ in the ARMY, in the army a craftsman is definitely linked to a skill category I.e. you only get the rank of Craftsman if you are deemed proficient in a Trade, your ECN defines the skill category. There are no crafty’s getting around without an important skill........but yes it is a rank but it’s an exclusive club.

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Originally Posted by Bigbjorn

For those among you who have not worked in the metal trades and are not aware of industrial practices.

An apprentice is supposed to work under the supervision of a qualified tradesman. Labourers and Trades Assistants likewise work under supervision. Qualified tradesmen are assumed to be competent and are given work to do and are minimally supervised by a leading hand or foreman.

Why motor mechanics are now called "technicians" is beyond my understanding. In my time on the tools technicians were workers who had taken Certificate or Diploma studies at a technical college. Such qualifications were regarded as being between a Trades Certificate and a university degree. They commonly wore dust coats in the shop whereas we greasy fitters wore overalls.

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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

As the term "technician" according to a dictionary doesnt mean a tradesman or anything, so its just a sales bull**** term.
Its a play on customers assumptions and covers their arse as its not in ref to a "tradesman" or "mechanic"

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I've gone from 'mechanic' to 'technician' to 'Senior technician' to 'Field Service Engineer' when doing work in data centres and I'm carrying a laptop ! :Rolling:

At my last place of employ one of the young techs asked how you became a senior tech, I said you needed to be sporting grey hair. :D

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Originally Posted by weeds

Umm, I was a Craftsman ‘crafty’ in the ARMY, in the army a craftsman is definitely linked to a skill category I.e. you only get the rank of Craftsman if you are deemed proficient in a Trade, your ECN defines the skill category. There are no crafty’s getting around without an important skill........but yes it is a rank but it’s an exclusive club.

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But he wasn't talking about the army - the Airforce where LAC is a rank - (the Craft relates to Aircraft not a craft) just as in the Navy you can hold the rank of Leading Seaman (male or female) and not be one of the Seaman categories or skill sets.

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Originally Posted by garrycol

But he wasn't talking about the army - the Airforce where LAC is a rank - (the Craft relates to Aircraft not a craft) just as in the Navy you can hold the rank of Leading Seaman (male or female) and not be one of the Seaman categories or skill sets.

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Kinda got it, wasn’t aware air force had the word craftsman in a rank, a little wiser now.

What rank would the tradesman I.e. vehicle mechanic have in the Air Force?.

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Originally Posted by weeds

What rank would the tradesman I.e. vehicle mechanic have in the Air Force?.

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Could be any rank really - in the technical categories from probably starting at LAC up to Air Vice Marshall (officers tend to hold engineer quals but may have been tradies if they came up through the ranks)

Vehicle Mechanic would normally be a junior rank but with further training and increasing rank morf into something else technical.

We've arrived at Woomera after three days of pushing it. No faults logged and behaving perfectly despite towing a 1.8t camper. Oil level is still stable and fuel consumption is around 13l/100km. It revs to 4k rpm and pulls well.
I'd say the problem is fixed.

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Originally Posted by Markf

We've arrived at Woomera after three days of pushing it. No faults logged and behaving perfectly despite towing a 1.8t camper. Oil level is still stable and fuel consumption is around 13l/100km. It revs to 4k rpm and pulls well.
I'd say the problem is fixed.

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Good to hear. Are you going on the restricted area? The launch pads are a sight to see. On the northern edge of Lake Gardiner.

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Originally Posted by Markf

We've arrived at Woomera after three days of pushing it. No faults logged and behaving perfectly despite towing a 1.8t camper. Oil level is still stable and fuel consumption is around 13l/100km. It revs to 4k rpm and pulls well.
I'd say the problem is fixed.

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That is Great news, Now you can finally start to enjoy your trip.[thumbsupbig][bigrolf]

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Originally Posted by Bohica

Good to hear. Are you going on the restricted area? The launch pads are a sight to see. On the northern edge of Lake Gardiner.

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Unfortunately no. We just don't have the time. Marla tomorrow - about 600 odd km. Managed to get the coolant temp up to 90 today while roaring up hill in 2nd at about 3.5k rpm.

Thats sounds pretty good,,

2nd at 3.5 up hill towing is a good test[thumbsupbig]