just get a 16p rocker cover gasket and injector loom, insulate the spaghetti..... job done.
Evening all,
My beloved beast is playing up again, been naughty once too often of late !!
Driving up a hill about 5 days back, car started running rough, felt like and lost a pot, pulled over, did fault check on Nanocom and the following fault logged "(27,3) Injector 3 Peak Charge Long", cleared it, re-started car, problem fixed.
About 4 days later, Sunday morning, same problem up a hill again, this time clred fault and took two re-starts and problem fixed again.
Sunday evening, same scenario, but wouldn't fix, and nanocom stopped listing the fault. Got home, cleaned out ECU connectors for oil, car lasted about a minute till I hit a small hill and happened again.
This afternoon same, so this evening I cleaned the injector loom connector, and wiggled the wires and un-taped where possible, tried to see if wiring had rubbed somewhere and was shorting. Moved the ECU out, played about with all wiring from ECU to injector connector, but cannot find a firm problem.
When I taped it back up, it ran for 5 minutes all good, drove down the track to bitumen, but when accelerated on flat, happened again. At times it sounds as though I can hear the cylinder slowly packing up before it says no, had enough.
I have not changed the injector harness in the 100kms I have had the car (5 years), it now has 315k on it. It does get oil on the injector connector and in the ECU red connector which I usually clean with contact cleaner about once a month. So where to start, is there anyway I can check the Injector 3 wire back to the ECU so see if it is shorting somewhere, but obviously this is difficult as once the car has detected something wrong it shuts down the injector, but I am guessing there would still be current there ? I did stick the multi-meter into the 7 injector wires where they go in to the ECU red connector, and all showed 0.29 / 0.30 when set on 20 volts (no good on multi-meters), whatever that means ?? It seems that wiggling the wiring is having some effect, but cannot be sure.
So at present I am pretty stuck as the car feels awful with a cylinder missing and worried I will do some more serious damage if I drive it, and a bit stuffed without it. Attached are a couple of photos of the harness uncovered, not sure if this helps at all.
Any help on where to start looking will be very gratefully received.
Cheers,
Matwiring 1.jpgwiring 2.jpgwiring 3.jpgt.
just get a 16p rocker cover gasket and injector loom, insulate the spaghetti..... job done.
If you haven`t changed the injector loom in your time when was it last changed ?
I class the loom as a consumable and at 100+k you have stretched the friendship![]()
Thank Gents, I haven't changed the loom in my 5 years and 100k kms of ownership.
Doing research last night I came across a great write up from a few years back where rather than find any potential wiring short, just cut and replace. Going to do that this morning,
D2a Td5 misfiring & cutting out (engine harness)
My wiring looks very similar to that in the photos and still think it has something to do with that. The injector harness was the Jan holiday break project when my Engineer uncle comes out from Blighty, he is car mad and we always find a project to do when he comes out each year.
Think plan is good, do the wiring first, should be a black and white affair, and if it is not that then it has to be the harness and will do that at the weekend.
Thanks again.
Matt.
Don't confuse ECU loom(your pics) and injector loom!
I'd be inclined to just tape the ECU loom (you posted in the pics) back up, and just make it tidy again.
The injector loom is inside the rocker cover.
It runs inside a long plastic conduit with 5 plugs poking out.
Hardest part is pulling the rocker cover off and getting back together without leaking again!
All up about a 1hr job.
Parts needed will be 1 injector loom($100ish) and if yours is old, a rocker cover gasket($25) (Roverlord).
Arthur.
All these discos are giving me a heart attack!
'99 D1 300Tdi Auto ( now sold :( )
'03 D2 Td5 Auto
'03 D2a Td5 Auto
Thanks Arthur, not a good day at the office, still have a car firing on only 4 cylinders. I created a new loom for the 7 wires from the injector harness, labelled every wire both ends, spend $45 on the heat and shrink connectors and built a new loom (see photo), magic moment and the car would not start !
I have been having issues with the connectors, and don't think they bound properly (maybe) - I don't like them.
Anyway, was able to go and get a new injector loom and gasket and replaced that, that all went very smoothly, car started after that, but only again on 4 cylinders.
I got the same error message, but this time for injector 1, so at this point all I can think is that somehow I have got two of the wires mixed up. I was so bloody meticulous as I know the consequences of starting again if I didn't get it right !
So possibly a connector is not tight enough, I have this evening now given up, but I un-taped everything at the connectors and double checked them, removing some and manually joining the wires and taping to see difference that made. Still on 4 cylinders, so I guess I have to start the process again and make sure the wires are all joined to same colours.
Unless there is any other possibility, but as I see it, now the loom is replaced, it has to be an electrical issue and I have somehow screwed up.
Grumpy !
Matt.loom1.jpgloom2.jpg
PS what alternatives are there to the heat and shrink connectors ?
done1.jpgdone2.jpgGrumpy bloke now happy bloke !
I slowly un-ravelled the new loom, and yes, I had crossed the red brown, and red purple wires at the ECU end. Discovered my fault and car started perfectly as soon as I rectified. Then proceeded to build a tidy loom and general wiring tidy up.
Obviously had the loom on its way out, car going more smoothly now than ever has done, so many thanks for the advice to change the loom. Pick-up from low revs better, and smoother, something you do not think is faulty till you change it.
Thanks for the replies.
Matt.
You are giving a very good example of how robust the ECU in a D2 TD5 is. Mixed up wires at ECU and the car still starts and runs (although not at optimal performance) => we really can rely on this car to explore anywhere we want, right?
Glad to hear you sorted out the issues.
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