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    D2 ZF Auto box - Bits therein.

    Hello all.

    As a previous D2 owner, one which travelled almost all of the continent over a period of 13yrs and ended up with around 300Kkm when we parted company, did think this should be shared. Don't know if the majority of D2 community is aware.

    Was the other day at a transmission overhaul and repair facility for one of my other cars, and did notice a D2 up on one of the other hoists. Did discuss with the business owner (as one does)

    It would appear that the/a Sprague clutch had failed, and what I assumed was the lock up clutch (at rear of box) was also on the way out. Unfortunately for the D2 owner there are no spares available. ZF no longer make the box and no longer make any parts, and there are none available hanging around on a shelf in Oz.

    The business owner said he managed source the necesary overseas but the prices were unrealistic. Would result in an overhauled box for $7-8000. D2s are around that price. Don't know about the likes of Craddok and Blanchard etc in UK????

    Might be time for AULRO cognosenti to consider other options e.g.:
    • Deffie TD5 maunual gearbox conversion. Mmmmmmmmmmm??
    • D3/D4 gearbox or D3 D4 engine gearbox conversion, or
    • someone manufacturing/remanufacturing critical ZF parts ???


    Might also add, the only trouble I ever had with my D2 GB was the wiring on the outside chafing.

    Guess there is another word to wise that I recall from one of the Dealer mechs at the time, an ex Alice Springs Land Rover guy, despite what LR says said, that was change the oil and the internal filter every 100 000km. That means dropping the pan. I did.

    Hope the bits about spares is all a furfy, the filter and oil is not.

    Might also be good idea to ensure front drive shaft aft joint in good nick (Flogging the auto box to death even worse idea now)

    Cheers

    Rick F

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    Mmm wonder how Ashcroft goes wrt parts?

    One Vic auto shop said same to me some time ago ie no new parts etc etc.

    I had the same prob with a 3l Paj some years ago and 2nd hand parts were used in the rebuild. Vic auto shop said they simply re use parts...he had a bone yard ...but eventually the supply will dry up I guess.

    No doubt Marks or others will come up with a conversion if demand is there but at what price?

    In the end all cars suffer from parts supply issues so nothing new there.

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    Haven't been able to get sprags etc for years now. The worst tging is that some components of the sprag ate PLASTIC. There are full metal ones in some of the BMW and I think Jaguar 4hp22 however they are very thin on the ground...
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    All of these (and other obsolete parts) are man-made. Surely some enterprising machine shop somewhere can do a replacement? Could be a lucrative little market, given the popularity of the ZF boxes with various, usually higher end, makers.
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    Plenty of 3l bmw x5s being wrecked for the excellent motor too with the same box...so the supply of 2nd hand boxes across the world should last a while yet☺

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Fischer View Post
    The business owner said he managed source the necesary overseas but the prices were unrealistic. Would result in an overhauled box for $7-8000. D2s are around that price. Don't know about the likes of Craddok and Blanchard etc in UK????
    Rick, he can't be looking too far. Ashcroft-Transmissions in the UK are still supplying them for around $3,000.00 AUD delivered including the core deposit, GST and import duties at the current exchange rate... I imagine that labour charges for the removal of the old and fitment of the new are less than $4-5,000.00...

    Doesn't look like they list any of the individual parts mentioned for sale separately < Ashcroft Transmissions > but I wonder if they will/would supply those parts if they were directly engaged by an enquiry...
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    yes I found the same thing a few years ago, but plenty to be found in wreckers or get them off BMW owners who are converting to a manual box
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    Time for a 6hp conversion

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    Quote Originally Posted by CU55TM Disco View Post
    Time for a 6hp conversion
    Sorry, I’m not familiar with that. Can u pls elaborate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_D2 View Post
    Sorry, I’m not familiar with that. Can u pls elaborate?
    Its the newer ZF 6 speed automatic transmissions found in the Disco 3 and early 4’s and many other brands such as Aston Martin, Ford, VW, BMW, etc.
    Mine - modified MY03 LT L318 Discovery 2a HSE Td5 15P
    Hers - MY12 L319 Discovery 4 2.7L TDV6
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