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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoDB View Post
    ...but it is surprising that the D2 towing capacity when at GVM is more like a Freelander than a Discovery.
    I might know of someone who's been traveling Australia in a fully loaded disco2 and towing a 3+ tonne caravan for the last 10 years thinking he was legal
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    Just be wary of using using the Rave or even the standard handbook. I cannot speak for the D2 but if you look at such documents for my RRS the ball capacity is much lower than it actually is - when you bought a RRS you got a handbook - is the UK version that had a tow ball capacity of 150kg, however there is a loose Australian supplement that ups the tow ball weight to 350kgs.

    So not saying what you read in the RAVE is not correct but see if there is a paper Australian supplement to the physical handbook that changes capacities for Australia - certainly applies to D3 and RRS.

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    I think the LR2 in the US is the Freelander ... isn't it?
    That is true I have both D2 and a Freelander 2 which is known as a FL2 in Aus and UK and LR2 in the US . Just a note on towing limits the fl2 has independent suspension which probably drops the towing capacity but has far more power than the td5 and tows my camper,smaller caravan and large tandem trailer much easier ,on flat roads 100k at 1650 revs and 11-12 liters per 100k . I prefer the D2 for the caravan as it is right on the weight limit for the FL2,especialy the ball weight .
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    Quote Originally Posted by rapserv View Post
    Can anyone explain to me WHY a 2001 Disco 2-TD5 with a 'braked towing weight' of 3500kg .. reduces to a capacity of ONLY 2000Kg with the vehicle loaded to legal payload.

    The Disco 2 is built like a tank and uses a pretty solid transmission so why such a huge drop?
    Is it to do with brake size?
    It's to do with GCM, gross combined mass.

    With the vehicle loaded to GVM a 3500kg trailer will massively exceed the rated GCM.

    The brakes, chassis, transmission won't safely cope with 6+ tonne, or at least exceed what Land Rover think is reasonable, and I wouldn't want to pull it, either.

    FWIW the chassis isn't as beefy as a Deefer 130 either, nor is the rear axle housing, or at least the Sals version, or the ones sporting a Wolf P38 style rear end.

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    Isn't it a bit deranged to try to tow 3500Kg with a vehicle that weighs 2150 KG?

    Td5 unladen weight: 2150 - 2290 kg.

    You are a bit closer with a d3 at 2440Kg

    My rule of thumb and for many in the industry is that the towed weight should be not more than the vehicle weight.
    And yes I know this is ignored by the majority of Grey Nomads , but it doesn't make it safe or correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    Isn't it a bit deranged to try to tow 3500Kg with a vehicle that weighs 2150 KG?

    Td5 unladen weight: 2150 - 2290 kg.

    You are a bit closer with a d3 at 2440Kg

    My rule of thumb and for many in the industry is that the towed weight should be not more than the vehicle weight.
    And yes I know this is ignored by the majority of Grey Nomads , but it doesn't make it safe or correct.

    Regards PhilipA
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    When I bought the 2.5t "Brick" I bought a 79 series V8 which when fully loaded comes in at about 3.5t to tow it with because it is Stronger and much more powerful than my V8 D2a and I am not as emotionally attached to the 79 series in case I "Break It" , "Horses for courses"
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    Quote Originally Posted by rapserv View Post
    I think the LR2 in the US is the Freelander ... isn't it?
    Ahh! Of course. I'd forgotten that.
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    When I read this, it makes me think that the tow limit has to do with the ball weight.

    Nose weight
    When the vehicle is loaded to GVW, trailer
    weight is limited to 2000 kg (2 tonnes) and
    the tow hitch vertical load (nose weight) is
    limited to 150 kg (330 lb).
    The maximum trailer weight is 3500 kg, in this
    case the tow-hitch maximum vertical load
    (nose weight) of 250 kg (550 lb) should be
    used and the vehicle loading limited as
    follows:
    1. Coil-spring rear suspension - driver plus
    two passengers (or their equivalent
    weight).
    2. Self-levelling rear suspension - driver plus
    four passengers and luggage (or the
    equivalent weight) occupants to be located
    in the first and second row seats
    (equivalent weight should be stowed fully
    forward against the folded second row of
    seats).
    NOTE: The maximum speed when towing is
    100 km/h (62 mph).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    When I read this, it makes me think that the tow limit has to do with the ball weight.
    Ball weight forms part of the vehicle payload.

    Check out John Cadogen's YouTube video about this - Complete guide to heavy towing (GVM, GCM & ATM explained)) . I can't provide a link owing to his usual language in videos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rapserv View Post
    I might know of someone who's been traveling Australia in a fully loaded disco2 and towing a 3+ tonne caravan for the last 10 years thinking he was legal
    Me too!
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