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    Twin Gauge Holder

    Finding a place to fit the EGT and Boost gauges is no doubt a problem for most owners of a D2, was hoping to be able to modify a A Pillar mount but could not find a suitable profile in all the ones available (there might be one but I didn't it!)
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    Purchased a Mud gauge holder for above the radio HVAC unit and it doesn't really do it for me - figured how to angle mount the gauges towards me by using a mobile drill stand and angling the cut between 30 to 45 degrees - so started looking at mounting them on the top of the instrument binnacle. Succeeded in cracking it right across the top cest le vie, out with the soldering iron and fly wire, it will look alright.

    So over the last month of so looking at the twin pod mounts and finally found one that looked alright and would mount on the top of the binnacle without looking too out of place. The curvature of the binnacle is quite complex so and "3 dimensional" if you know what I mean.

    It is for a Ford Ranger and now having gotten into my hands (less than $30 by the way) and profiled it against the binnacle, sits beautifully and is well out the way but in line of sight. It will require a cut in the top of the binnacle to clear the bottom of the gauges and may require a little bit of remolding but is about 95% out the box. Thinking of repainting the whole of the top black or the pod grey but its more about the gauges being easily seen for me.

    One note that it does not come with mounting holes so will require these or gluing down - should also strengthen up the binnacle as well I think

    Ohh it also makes a great place to mount the mic for bluetooth at the front and the low coolant led lamp and buzzer between the gauges, right in line of sight.


    This was the ebay link

    2'' 52mm Dual Gauge Meter Holder Dash Board Mounted Pod Hole For Ford Ranger | eBay


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    I went with one of these on my old D1, although it may be a bit big for what you need.


    Regualar size
    Mud Dash Pod For Defender (to 06) & Discovery 1 & 2 - Devon 4x4 - MUD-006-MUD


    Smaller size
    Mud Dash Pod Mini For Defender (to 06) & Discovery 1 & 2 - Devon 4x4 - MUD-005-MUD
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    Can't help with the gauge holder for D2 .. I'm trying to figure out something for mine too.
    But my reply is about the black painting of the pod/binnacle.

    I painted my D1 binnacle years ago in satin black. Best mod for a Disco(1 or 2) for visibility.
    Grey gives a washed out look directly ahead of the driver, I guess the fawn/brown coloured ones even worse!

    Looks a bit strange being black with the rest of the dash in grey, but now there's a 'black hole' directly in the drivers line of sight(no reflection on the windscreen) where I can see the dash out to the sides, but not the reflection of the binnacle.

    I reckon pain it black, satin is better than matt, as matt will scuff and dust up more readily.

    ps. D1 and D2 binnacles are the same fit.
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    Did a repair of the binnacle to begin, simple one (found out I don't have flywire to strengthen it up) just put spot welds on the underside. The ryobi cordless solderer was about half way with the philips head looking tip.

    Then I am mocking it up with the binnacle.

    It is going to be touch and go as to fit, but after moving it around, for mine at the moment the left hand side of the binnacle looks right as the slight angle of the gauges is the right - you will see in the photos20210819_201249.jpg20210819_201259.jpg20210819_202751.jpg20210819_202831.jpg20210819_202914.jpg20210819_203756.jpg20210819_203806.jpg20210819_203812.jpg20210819_203818.jpg



    Quote Originally Posted by cripesamighty View Post
    I went with one of these on my old D1, although it may be a bit big for what you need.


    Regualar size
    Mud Dash Pod For Defender (to 06) & Discovery 1 & 2 - Devon 4x4 - MUD-006-MUD


    Smaller size
    Mud Dash Pod Mini For Defender (to 06) & Discovery 1 & 2 - Devon 4x4 - MUD-005-MUD

    Sorry you misunderstood, actually did purchase one already but it just doesn't work for me, think once I got in my hand and put it on the dash, the finish and style was just not right - sure it would work out of the box but sent me looking elsewhere.



    Quote Originally Posted by AK83 View Post
    Can't help with the gauge holder for D2 .. I'm trying to figure out something for mine too.
    But my reply is about the black painting of the pod/binnacle.

    I painted my D1 binnacle years ago in satin black. Best mod for a Disco(1 or 2) for visibility.
    Grey gives a washed out look directly ahead of the driver, I guess the fawn/brown coloured ones even worse!

    Looks a bit strange being black with the rest of the dash in grey, but now there's a 'black hole' directly in the drivers line of sight(no reflection on the windscreen) where I can see the dash out to the sides, but not the reflection of the binnacle.

    I reckon pain it black, satin is better than matt, as matt will scuff and dust up more readily.

    ps. D1 and D2 binnacles are the same fit.

    Interested if you (or someone else) knows the dark grey black colour of the console as this makes a whole lot of sense to do both the same colour.
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    Height above the dashboard

    Forgot to note that the height of the gauges due to the angle of the back of the dash binnacle is not obtrusive at all, seems like the gauges will show with about 4/5's of the dial visible looking straight ahead.
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    My binnacle cracked in half when I attempted to remove it last week. Probably because the screw mountings and spring clip mounting points were totally destroyed already and the PO had sikaflexed it down. I glued it back together with plastic primer and superglue for the two halves and hot glue for all the other bits that had broken off. I then fibreglassed with tabbing cloth and epoxy underneath to reinforce the binnacle because I don't trust it's eggshell brittleness. I also rebuilt the mounting points in fibreglass and epoxy. Where the screws attach behind the steering wheel doesn't need to be that flash because you really can't see it when installed.

    Anyway, enough waffling. I mention this because I repaired my rear bumper the same way a while back and it's going great. Part of that repair was to finish the job using "trim paint" i.e. a spray can of paint specific for trims. It doesn't need priming and also dries with a slight ripple finish similar to the finish on a lot of plastic trim. I'll use it to paint the binnacle, which will be black (I have the brown interior), but you might be interested in it because it also comes in grey. Much better than using regular spray pack enamel, I think.

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    Moulding the Gauge Holder

    Spent a good hour and a half with a pot of boiling water moulding the gauge holder yesterday. Got it to where there is no major stress holding it to the curvature of the dashboard binnacle. However did find my initial cut of the binnacle was a little too forward leaving a small gap at the front under the holder and have to make more cuts at the back to insert the gauge.

    The moulding is time consuming, placing the holder (not totally just the area to mould) in the water for around three minutes to allow it to soften enough and then subtle moulding, sometimes pressing along a rounded edge to get the right profile, other times just using finger pressure especially at the front edge to wrap around the hard curve at the front edge of the binnacle.

    As to fitting have ordered to some double sided foam tape to seal the unit and to firmly attach the holder have got some small allen head bolts ordered. Thinking it will require about 8 to firmly attach but will probably do more for surety.

    IF you look at the initial pictures it may be impossible to think it would 'fit' but believe me it is not that difficult to get to where I am at the moment, just time consuming.

    Pictures are a little difficult to take as there is some 'lifting' but this will give you a fair representation as to the fit of the holder
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    The slight lift of the pod as it is, is easily profiled to the dash by applying very little pressure

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    Again there is a fair bit of easy flattening of this edge which will he held down by the bolts. The easiest way to profile this side was firm pressure against a hard rounded edge, Repeat and Repeat again!
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    This was the hardest part of the moulding, the tight turn onto the front edge of the binnacle


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    Indication as to how it will look, the lower part of the gauge may be hidden but the important area of the gauges in line of sight.
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    This is the one I'm currently making for my D2A.
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    This is what I did with my D2 for extra gauges.

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    Had to trim the corners off the instrument cluster so that it fit back down properly. Biggest PITA was running wiring down the back of instruments, not much room there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1madgerman View Post
    This is the one I'm currently making for my D2A.
    Such a pity they don't have one off the shelf as good as this, it really is the ideal position and I would guess the wiring simplified.


    Quote Originally Posted by ChookD2 View Post
    This is what I did with my D2 for extra gauges.

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    Had to trim the corners off the instrument cluster so that it fit back down properly. Biggest PITA was running wiring down the back of instruments, not much room there.
    Really love the look of the gauges sitting bug eyed and as with my solution, they will not cut into your line of sight out the front. How have you found the SAAS gauges, I do prefer the look of them as to a reasonable close approximation to the standard gauges on the D2 (not so much if I had a D2A)




    Have gotten my paint, screws and the foam tape so hopefully by midweek will have mine installed back on the dash board - got grey and black spray cans so will try it in grey first and if I don't like the look, black it will be.
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    1994 Discovery 1 V8 Auto - Gone once it consumed half the worlds resource of oil

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