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    Starting issue

    2004 TD5 D2a

    For a couple years, this thing fired up immediately. Every single time.

    Now I am waiting 30 seconds for the fuel pump to prime at ignition II, before turning the engine over and it the starts immediately.

    Sometimes it needs to wait, sometimes it doesn’t.

    Once it’s going, no problem whatsoever.

    My thoughts are either fuel pump or injector seals.

    Just completed a service including fuel filter with nil change and the oil did not seem to thin or smell like diesel.

    Just looking for some troubleshooting hints.

    I will be looking to replace the fuel pump as I’ve just done the rocker gasket and hoping I don’t have to do that again if it was the seals haha

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    Seals are the cheaper ... guess, I suppose ...
    Arthur.

    All these discos are giving me a heart attack!

    '99 D1 300Tdi Auto ( now sold :( )
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK83 View Post
    Seals are the cheaper ... guess, I suppose ...
    Haha. Plus rocker cover gasket, grommets and all that time.

    Although, I won’t replace the entire pump and housing assembly.

    Land Rover Discovery Defender TD5 Fuel Pump Genuine CONTINENTAL/VDO | eBay

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    Fuel Pump Module Assembly for Land Rover Discovery II TD5 2.5L Diesel 1998-2004 6941538365602 | eBay

    Been running this since march last year, runs to over 80psi

    The one it replaced was a cheapy too which i now have as spare as it wasn't the problem.

    No association with them other than as happy chappy customer, I have bought a lot of parts off this mob for various cars and no issues with quality/longevity (yet, touch wood)

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    Quote Originally Posted by getLuke View Post
    Haha. Plus rocker cover gasket, grommets and all that time.

    Although, I won’t replace the entire pump and housing assembly.

    Land Rover Discovery Defender TD5 Fuel Pump Genuine CONTINENTAL/VDO | eBay
    That's what I put in, Bought it at the same place. I'd avoid the cheaper ones, too many sad stories with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohica View Post
    That's what I put in, Bought it at the same place. I'd avoid the cheaper ones, too many sad stories with them.

    Awesome to hear. I am more inclined to use genuine where possible.

    Any trouble with the remove and refit to the exisiting housing?

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    Update:

    I am now experiencing not being able to hear the pump prime at ignition II and have to cycle the ignition off and on until I hear it prime, then it fires up.

    So I expect this issue is more towards the pump being faulty.

    However, could the relay be playing up?

    Or anything else I could consider?

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    Easy enough to swap over the relay.
    Changing over the pump? A bit tricky very doable and a lot cheaper!
    D2a Td5 Manual, Chawton White. aka "Daisy"
    Build date 11th Oct 2003
    Freelander 2 2011, manual, the daughter calls it Perri
    Before I had a Land Rover I did not have any torque wrenches. Now I have three.
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    Now I am waiting 30 seconds for the fuel pump to prime at ignition II, before turning the engine over and it the starts immediately.
    My experience with injector seals is that after priming it would start on a few cylinders then gradually start to fire on all 5.
    Injector seals will not cause diesel in oil, that would be the o rings at the top of the injectors.
    Faulty injector seals cause gases to be forced into the fuel return chamber thus adding "air or maybe gas" to the fuel.

    You may of course have 2 problems fuel pump and injector seals. If you pull out the pump and the pickup is covered in black gunk, you have bad injector seals as well.
    Regards PhilipA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohica View Post
    Easy enough to swap over the relay.
    Changing over the pump? A bit tricky very doable and a lot cheaper!
    Relay swap didn't make any difference so now the lack of hearing it prime makes me think its the pump itself.

    And I would consider myself a beginner at any mechanical level, but happy to give things a crack.

    Any hints with the swap? I found this guide that will be useful I think!

    TD5 fuel pump maintence and repair tutorial

    Appreciate your help mate!

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