Thread: M and S lights, turns over but no start

Yes, some tools will read codes. Will they clear them? I dunno. I would avoid the ones at Bunnings ( do you have those? ), and make sure you get a money back thing. There is still the issue with the TD5 and OBDII protocols. Not saying they won't work, but they might not. Most of us put up with the Nanocom peculiarities, because we can't find anything else. Keep an eye out for a Hawkeye as well. Doubt you'll find one, but..

If I wasn't up to my armpits with my own issues I'd post you mine for a lend. But it's getting a workout at the moment.

Originally Posted by Adarewyr

..... Will a non nanotech scan tool work to read the codes, or is it completely useless. I have been reading and I thought I read some tools can scan codes just cannot program

Of the cheap ones, and I assume you don't want to spend the $700+ for the nanocom .... I'd say no.

You can get generic ELM327 cheapie bluetooth OBD dongles for $10ish on the net, won't work. Brother got a cheap end Autel(before I got mine), don't work. He also got one of those scanguage devices(I think it's called that), don't work.

Note that they all work, in some way, on other cars incl on the V8 D2 ... but forget the TD5.

Originally Posted by AK83

Of the cheap ones, and I assume you don't want to spend the $700+ for the nanocom .... I'd say no.

You can get generic ELM327 cheapie bluetooth OBD dongles for $10ish on the net, won't work. Brother got a cheap end Autel(before I got mine), don't work. He also got one of those scanguage devices(I think it's called that), don't work.

Note that they all work, in some way, on other cars incl on the V8 D2 ... but forget the TD5.

My brother was a mechanic before he moved to aus, was going to try fish his one out, he reckoned he has something to scam BMW with but for the effort of going to find it I will just get a nanotech one instead.... Good 2 hours of driving to dig through an old tool box

not sure why i keep going nanotech in my head, nanocom.....

LOL! name don't matter ... nano is fine.

I dunno what you know about cars in general, but if you have a small amount of knowledge of cars in the USA, OBD knowledge will come a bit easier.

It's a minefield knowing what does and what doesn't work with OBD, but for earlier cars(up to about 2007ish) OBD was all over the place.
Some work, some don't.

If it was sold in the US, chances are that it will probably be ODB compliant. But this isn't always true.
Some mid 2000s cars can be(here in Aus) and some will be partially, and some not at all.

Bro has a 2005ish Falcon something like a BA maybe(can't recall, no interest). Connected to the Autel, some things work, some things not. One thing we could do was to change it to Police spec, and found out that doing that stopped the speedo from working.
I think may have 10 ECUs of some type, maybe one or two communicated.

Sister has a 2004 RAV, very common in the US, but Autel won't communicate at all. Again, it's another vehicle of "hmmmm" value to me, so don't care about it. Anyhow, B-I-L had to go to dealer to get the new throttle body to communicate with the car.

I have two Peugeots. 307HDi(2004) and 3008Hdi(2013) 307 was my dads, and I ended up with it. It gave me so much grief when he owned it. Not unrelaiable, just many ECU errors. Followed some Utube channels and found that tis Autel I bought worked with the 307 ... haha! .. NOT!
In the UK it does, but not here in Aus. Same year, same engine ... difference? Damned ECU! In the UK they use a Siemens ECU, here in Aus, they used a Bosch ECU ... and guess which one is NOT fully OBD? Car can communicate, show data, just not affect any adjustments and installs.

The ELM327 dongle($10 off ebay) also reads the 307, no issue.

The issue is(or can be) exactly how reliable is the OBD tool you're connecting. I found many discrepancies on the 307 from what ODB tools were saying, and the eventual actual errors(DTC). In the end for the 307 I had to get a Peugeot software program to run on a laptop.

2013 3008, fully works with OBD scanners/reader and coincides with the Peugeot software too.

If all this sounds a bit confusing.. then you understand the point of this reply. It is when it comes to autos from this era... between 1996 and 2007(here in Aus).
US did OBD, then Euro did OBD, then Au did OBD. I think it's only from post 2007 when you get more reliable comms.

... so yeah ... for a D2(TD5) the most reliable option will be a nanocom.

An interesting take on OBD in the US.

I'm trying to purchase the nanocom now, just waiting for them to email me a bank account, and probably need to work out how I pay with New Zealand dollars instead of your Australian dollary-doos like I selected on the website

Once I have it, will it hopefully be able to give me some error codes so someone in here can explain whats gone wrong?

Originally Posted by discorevy

As mentioned, check the inside fusebox, you'll have to remove it

Originally Posted by discorevy

Pull the internal fusebox, it's not just fuses, I was just using that terminology so you'd know what it was. Water runs down the back of them when you have leaks, and can cause your issues.

It's called an IDM ( Intelligent driver module )
If it can't be dried out, get another but make sure it suits your model.
You'll also need to leave ignition on for 5 minutes to re-establish comms, if it's not the original.

Also, if your ECU start with "MSB", someone may have "chipped" it, which may not have been resealed properly.

Originally Posted by Adarewyr

Once I have it, will it hopefully be able to give me some error codes so someone in here can explain whats gone wrong?

Some can only try.