Whats TC like in sand?

so,, Bazz,, you had to stop at the top to put the fire out??
;):p

Gnangarra plantation. Stock D2. Had to have a second crack at this hill, steeper and longer than it looks. But made it up unassisted. Can't say the same for the modified LC's and patrols.

nice fellas nice

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Originally Posted by Slunnie

Actually, I'm really not sure why but Patrols specifically seem to be amazingly poor in sand in my opinion.

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Lets do the figures.

Nissan patrol ST 3.0l diesel Auto 2420kg
Nissan patrol ST 4.2 diesel Man 2530kg

And my favourite...

Landcruiser Sahara Diesel 2645kg

and.... a 2007 Defender 1977kg. Note that this is a EEC kerb weight that includes a 70 kg driver, 13kg for luggage, and 3/4 tank of fuel (50kg). I make that about 1850kg as a direct comparison.

I reckon that's a pretty big reason.... About 800kg on a sahara. :o

A nephew of mine had a 99 LC diesel trayback.Bloody uncomfortable,slow& leaked gear oil :D:D

I had a 01 td5 disco in those days NO CDL,and one day we spent some time sorting which was better climbing some real soft & steep sand dunes.The TD5 stopped at least a car lenght ahead every time.
Both vehicles were stock,although the trayback did not have skinny split rims,it had rims with 265/70/16 tyres.All tyres were on 18psi.

With sand driving,if your tyres are on around 18psi,& you keep momentum up,you wont have many problems.


The TD5 disco isnt a lot lighter than a 3litre pootrol

Maybe the landy drivers not only have a better vehicle,but also know what they are doing
My brother in law has a GU patrol,& my disco kills it in sand:D

And for that matter in most other areas as well:)

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Originally Posted by scarry

The TD5 disco isnt a lot lighter than a 3litre pootrol

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Actually it is. A 03 Discovery2 td5 Auto Weighs 2088, which is closer to 1950 in jap spec. So that's nearly 500kg. :o

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Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

Actually it is. A 03 Discovery2 td5 Auto Weighs 2088, which is closer to 1950 in jap spec. So that's nearly 500kg. :o

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Where did you get those figures from Captain, my owners manual says;

TD5 is 2195kg to 2300kg

V8 is 2140kg to 2255kg


Baz.

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Originally Posted by Redback

Where did you get those figures from Captain, my owners manual says;

TD5 is 2195kg to 2300kg

V8 is 2140kg to 2255kg


Baz.

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I got it from Redbook. It was kerb weight. Normally it's pretty right. It was good for the Defender.

Was it kerb weight in the manual?

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Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

I got it from Redbook. It was kerb weight. Normally it's pretty right. It was good for the Defender.

Was it kerb weight in the manual?

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That is the kerb weight or Tare weight of the D2 (ie) dry weight.

GVM is 2880KG Diesel, 2825KG Petrol

The weight difference is the spec of the model (ie) S, SE, HSE, S being the lighter no ACE/SLS and so on.

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Originally Posted by Redback

Where did you get those figures from Captain, my owners manual says;

TD5 is 2195kg to 2300kg

V8 is 2140kg to 2255kg


Baz.

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I had a bit of a look around,and as i thought,around 2250kg kerb,depending on spec,not far off a GU.

Maybe i will go to the dump & check mine on the weighbridge:D;)