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    Td5s and Petrol just dont mix!

    Well, I did something very stupid on the weekend, and I feel like it's high time I fessed up...

    On Friday afternoon I went to the servo to fill up the Disco because she was just about empty. While I was waiting in the cue, I noticed an elderly lady on the next pump struggling to screw the gas fitting onto the fuel tank of her XF Falcon, so I hopped over and helped her to connect it...

    Then I went back to my pump and continued to chat to her about this and that; all the while casually filling my Td5 up with premium unleaded!

    All the warning signs were there; the small nozzle, the price, the smell! Regardless, I filled her up from nigh empty and drove the five or so kilometres home.

    Next morning when my girlfriend cranked the Disco over to head shopping, it was shuddering majorly at idle and seemed generally to be very unwell. Luckily she had the good sense to shut it off straight away... Suddenly everything from the day previous came rushing back, and I realized what a damn fool thing I had done!

    Anyway... I syphoned the tank (quite a mission seeing as though it was almost completely full!), disconnected the fuel line from the fuel pressure regulator and purged the system with deisel. I also rinsed the fuel filter in diesel. I filled her to the brim with deisel and some diesel treatment, and then...

    ...with much trepidation, I fired her up. She spluttered a little bit, and blew a fair plume of smoke out the rear, but - fingers and toes crossed - I seem to have averted a major catastrophe!

    I did a general search on Google, and mostly the prognosis varies... Some say that a little petrol through the system doesn't matter. Others maintain that it is the most horrendous of sins. Also, funnily enough, most people maintain that it was their wife, or mate, who did the nasty deed!!!

    I appear to be the first AULROlian to have been such a tool... Hopefully I will be forgiven! And if not, at least I have enough lawnmower fuel to last a lifetime!

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    forgot to mention...

    Forgot to mention: I've done 100k's since and the Disco appears to be running sweet. I'll keep everyone updated, just in case the pump or some other component decides to throw in the towel!

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    I heard you mix "light" fuel with diesel to make it go better,,

    maybe not in that ratio----
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    Soooo.......


    How come you taking the grief for your wife?
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    Some years ago the (one and only) petrol station in town filled their ULP tank with diesel instead of the correct stuff. You should have seen the number of cars that filled up and got about 500m before dying

    I'd say lucky you caught it when you did and good on you for owning up. I think a lot of others have done this and gone off to hide somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dm_td5 View Post
    I think a lot of others have done this and gone off to hide somewhere.

    Kinda like me! Although I had mentioned it my NT ...Blockie trip report. I did it in Innaminck a couple of months ago, topped up already half a tank with 25 litres of premium unleaded before I realised what I was doing. Luckily that was before I finished filling so I hadn't started it. I paid a hefty price though, $1.95 cpl for the premium, $2.10 cpl for the diesel, $130 to drain - near on $500 for the mistake. I feel for you & hope there's no long term damage, good luck!

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    Never put petrol into my diesel disco, but I did throw in a crankcase load of sump oil as I was saddened to see its energy content wasted.

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    I hope you filtered it!! used sump oil through your injectors?? eek....

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    Geez well where do I start,

    This has happend to a few of the machines I maintain over the years but 2 stand out for the sheer stupidity yet the sheer lack of mechanical damage.

    # 1. Jacobsen GK5 greens mower, 3 cyl Kubota NA diesel, runs out of diesel on a certain inner city melbourne golf course green.

    They ring me when I was in Geelong, I give then instructions on how to bleed it to get it going and so they tell me they will call me if they have any more trouble.

    I get the call about 1/2 hr later, still wont go so they have dragged it off the green, this is a problem in it self as you need to resease the hydraulics to be able to move it so they have ripped up half the green in dragging it through all the fuel they have spilt while trying to bleed it.

    40mins later I get there, from 100m away I could smell the ULP and here they were with the jumper leads from the bosses ute jump starting it because they had cranked the battery until dead.

    I released the Hydrostat, towed it to the shed, roped off the green (which died and had to be massively reconstructed) with signs DO NOT SMOKE etc etc.

    Drained the tank refilled with Diesel and bled and I couldnt even believe it.......it started.

    It ran fine for another 3 years with no issues.

    # 2. was basically the same machine just the update GK6, similar situation other than instead of running out, he decided to come back and fill up before he did but filled it with petrol not diesel.

    Got to the other side of the course and half way through a green before it spluttered and cut out.

    Same thing, drained and refilled (I was on site this time) and sure enough, it's still going, the engine seems to be the best part of that machine.

    You may find that it may loosen off some gum and crap in the system but if it's running well now it should be ok.

    Good on you for owning up to it, a lot of people wouldnt.

    1 more comes to mind about the sump oil...

    It isnt so much going through the injectors that you worry about, it's when a turbo seal goes and it gets atomized into the intake manifold and burned along with the diesel.

    Problem being, while you have oil there you have no control so the revs just increase and increase until it either goes bang or it runs out of oil.

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    Ticka,you will be happy to know i did it once too.I was with the wife,pulled up,& filled up with unleaded.Luckily,she went to pay,and said to the attendent,the diesel pump.The reply was,no one has used any diesel .Yes the TD5was full of unleaded.

    I pushed it out the way,and sent it on a tilt tray to the mechanic,with strict instructions not to start it.They drained the tank,changed the fuelfilter,gave me back the fuel,and lightened my pocket around $180,from memory.

    The funny thing was my brother in law had done it to his GU Pootrol,around 6 months earlier,and we had been giving him curry about it for ages.

    He had all sorts of trouble with his after nissan fixed it as they left the fuelfilter loose & it sucked in air months afterwards on a desert trip,and took a while to locate the problem.

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