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    D2 Replacement Airbag Suspension

    Hi,
    I know this subject has been brought up a million times in forums but just asking for anyones advise out there in Land Rover Land for the cost of replacement Rear Airbags for D2a Disco. Mines got the left rear going down overnight and I have called a couple of local specialists on the Sydney North Shore for quotes but would be interested in anyones experience that they have had with their Disco's.

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    When the dollar was high aginst USD, you could not go past Arnott Ind. for a pair landed at your door for around $370

    Now you would have to check the exchange, but The AirBag Man might be almost be competitive.
    Genuine (at last check, last year) was prohibitive.

    Don,t change just one and don,t go 2nd hand unless you are desperately broke.

    Cheers

    Mark

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    Do it FAST!!!
    otherwise you'll be up for a compressor as well.

    seriously.
    fast.
    do it now.
    "How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"

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    Air bag man. Do it now.

    JC
    The Isuzu 110. Solid and as dependable as a rock, coming soon with auto box😊
    The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈

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    Glenn,

    If you are sure its the airbags get quotes from Arnott Ind. (USA) and Airbagman. Original LR parts will be arounf $840ea

    If you're not sure, check with soapy water from a spray bottle around the pipe joins, airbag fold and top of airbag where the metal ring is.

    Heres some of my experience with airbags in these two posts.

    If you're up for it, they're really quite easy to fit yourself, your first time, allow about 40 mins per side..

    Good Luck

    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery/...completed.html

    and

    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery/...tml#post916534

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    Guys just to tag onto Glen's thread would he be not better at looking at putting springs in the rear?

    Reason I ask is my LR specialist response to me the other day was to put springs in the rear when I was talking about getting a lift, he said it's more reliable long term and the air bag really have no benefit.

    Yet I see on the forums alot of guys inclusive of Glen and simon going the airbag replacement option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBee75 View Post
    Guys just to tag onto Glen's thread would he be not better at looking at putting springs in the rear?

    Reason I ask is my LR specialist response to me the other day was to put springs in the rear when I was talking about getting a lift, he said it's more reliable long term and the air bag really have no benefit.

    Yet I see on the forums alot of guys inclusive of Glen and simon going the airbag replacement option?
    Yes Springs are probably going to be more reliable – I say probably because I’ve replaced the coils in every car I’ve ever owned because they sagged... And unfortunately there are cases of the system failing – like all technology that’s not maintained.

    The air bag really have no benefit – why are there coil sprung vehicles getting around with the “helper” bags in the center of the coil for heavy towing or loading. Clearly this advice comes from someone without a clear understanding of how it works and how to fix it. The air spring is the only medium of spring that will ride at the same height and with the same comfort no matter what load they are carrying or towing. Why does virtually every late model heavy truck/bus have air – because it has no advantage – don’t think so especially when it’s worth tons of $ to have a truck breakdown...

    I really don’t get the coil conversion mentality especially in the Range Rovers – if you want a coil car; go buy a Nissan or Toyota. I would be betting that your LR specialist does’t fully understand an air system because it is not that difficult system to keep going and there are heaps of people who can fix it with aftermarket replacement parts – My D2 (1999) is the only car I’ve ever owned (out of 8) to make it to 10 years without any suspension work required – yes there are people replacing bags now but these cars are now nearly 10 years old and the failed compressor is usually due to a leak not being fixed in time – once again this is often people not fully understanding the system and getting to the cause (leak) in time (even LR dealers – I’ve seen it up here). The spring conversion is also far more profitable to the garage, they actually have to think about an air system.

    If you don't like the technology or you want the cheap way out than go back to old school coils - but don't bother with "The air bag really have no benefit".

    And there is ways to raise an air suspension car - he might not be aware of that... I would think an LR specialist would beable to give you all the options.

    Sorry I am cranky today and I really don't mean to pick on you
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    Nice rant...

    I'd second what you say and I'd also add that keeping it original usually helps with any resale value.

    M

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    Those bags your complaining about have probably lasted ten years,,
    go back and ask your coil guy how long did his last set of coils last,,

    "no advantage" ?? WTF?? and you let this guy work on your car???

    "How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"

    '93 V8 Rossi
    '97 to '07. sold.
    '01 V8 D2
    '06 to 10. written off.
    '03 4.6 V8 HSE D2a with Tornado ECM
    '10 to '21
    '16.5 RRS SDV8
    '21 to Infinity and Beyond!


    1988 Isuzu Bus. V10 15L NA Diesel
    Home is where you park it..

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    Thanks for the feedback everyone. As soon as I realised that I had a leak I did the soap spray with no visable leak, so I'm guessing it is in the fold of the bag itself.
    Sherman has been up on stands since as I've read a few threads which pointed out how easy it is to overwork and blow your compressor which results in a HUGE $ bill. Took this opportunity to change all my oils while I get some quotes.

    I have been told by a local non-genuine LR workshop that OEM bags are the only way to go as the Arnott's and Dunlop import bag do not fit without modifications????? sounds like a sales pitch to me but can someone please clarify?

    OEM Bags - $560 + GST each.

    Last note to "Harlie" - imformative rant and I couldn't agree more but have you every thought of a Valium sandwich before joining the forum???

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