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  1. 23rd May 2009, 07:22 PM #31
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    Grover, what is the open length on the shocks or which shocks is that running?
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  2. 23rd May 2009, 08:26 PM #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    Grover, what is the open length on the shocks or which shocks is that running?
    Running Dobinson
    front were to suit a 2" lift (way too short - maybe need another 80mm on extension)

    rear are 415 closed 645 xtended (i think from what i can find in my archives)
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    Quote Originally Posted by grover7488 View Post
    Running Dobinson
    front were to suit a 2" lift (way too short - maybe need another 80mm on extension)

    rear are 415 closed 645 xtended (i think from what i can find in my archives)
    Thanks for this. Are the rear shocks about right for length?
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    do we know what the rates and free heights are for these springs??
    i have an evil plan if they arnt too stiff

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    Quote Originally Posted by discowhite View Post
    do we know what the rates and free heights are for these springs??
    i have an evil plan if they arnt too stiff

    cheers phil
    I tried to sus this from Shane, but he works on winds, lengths and wire diameter rather than rates. From what I've seen they are relatively soft compared to what I run, and I think everything is probably relatively stiff compared to what you run.

    As a complete guess, I'd be thinking its something around 180F and 240R
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    ive got 240lb's in the ute f&r....rides like a toyota and gives me a sore neck

    what are the details shane gave you? i can work out from the coil dia, wire dia and number of active coils what the rates are.

    180lb at thoes heights should see the coil free height over 500mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by discowhite View Post
    180lb at thoes heights should see the coil free height over 500mm

    cheers phil
    I think they were over 500mm (cant find where i wrote it). will try and confirm

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    Quote Originally Posted by discowhite View Post
    ive got 240lb's in the ute f&r....rides like a toyota and gives me a sore neck

    what are the details shane gave you? i can work out from the coil dia, wire dia and number of active coils what the rates are.

    180lb at thoes heights should see the coil free height over 500mm

    cheers phil
    I'm not sure, I've always worked in rates and free lengths. There are waaaay too many variables when using wire diameters etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grover7488 View Post
    I think they were over 500mm (cant find where i wrote it). will try and confirm

    cheers
    Hey Grover, can you also check what wire diametre your rears are. I know Shane had an 18mm for lighter rear ends and 19mm for those with fat... err slightly heavier rear ends.

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    Just trolling our emails I found this.

    The SS rates are not sure but something around 230lb/inF and 300-320lb/inR
    Front Hub to Guard is 590mm
    Rear Hub to Guard is 640mm with free lengths at 530mm
    new Rear Hub to Guard is 600mm so I assume the free length is 490mm


    Based on my data with Lovells and Bilstein I run
    570mm hub to guard at the front with 230lb/in @ 430mmFL and 655mm shocks which give a captive but loose fit for the springs.
    595mm hub to guard at the rear at 300-340lb/in @ 470mmFL and 655mm shocks which give a captive but loose fit for the springs.
    These measurements were before I loaded it full of crap which lowered it somewhat.

    I'm guessing that 655mm shocks GU/GQ rear lengths will work well with the SS springs then, or if you are chasing absolute travel then you could probably run the shocks out to about 675mm open and remain captive, but the Watts linkage would need modding for clearance such as the RTE cranked set and the front ACE sway links would need to be made 1" longer.

    It sounds like the SS flexi springs are very similar to what I have. That doesn't surprise me in that Shane I chatted heaps when he was developing them. I really thought that they were a lot softer than that when seeing them in the bush. They seem to be 20mm longer in the free lengths than Lovells though, and significantly better priced!!!





    hmmm, I hope that all made sense.
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