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    Instrument mode is very much what you describe ... Page 1 shows rpm, speed, coolant temp, battery voltage, boost .... Page 2 shows .... Page 3 shows .... and so on.

    What's been asked is if we could "tag" in a setup screen, any mix of up to 6 parameters that are currently available across the 5 instrument mode screens, and have them displayed together on a single screen.
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    Hello Ferret:
    No worries or argument here, just healthy discussion and information exchange, and I understand your point, easy misunderstanding and question, and of course would be only too happy to explain and provide more detail and understanding as you suggest about the difference between inputs and our "unique" Instrument mode function, even with some pictures to help.

    Like most good diagnostic equipment, the Nanocom also provides the ability to select pages that provide live input information which updates in real time. Here is a picture of one by example.



    However, given that the nanocom Evolution has it's own built in full colour TFT display, and is small enough to be permanenty mounted in a vehicle, It seemed a good idea to provide the ability to use it not just as an occasionally used traditional menu driven diagnostic tool, but also as a secondary Instrument to the usual Instrument pack, displaying EMS input information in real time not normally avaliable to the driver.

    To that end we also offer a range of mounting hardware, including RA leads that allows the Nanocom to be located in easy view of the driver as desired.

    To the Left




    Or the Right



    It is even possible to invert the display 180 degrees to best suit fitment and best cable routing for LHD / RHD or personal preference, but more important the Nanocom can be set to automatically go directly into this Instrument mode display when it is powered up rather than the usual diagnostic menu.

    As a second Instrument display, instead of just some boring Live data display, we made it look the part in providing a retro display style for the values that emulates the origional Green seven segment type displays and we also provide a the choice of several pre configured display screens with different Data on each.


    Here are 3 pictures of some instrument Mode displays from my own Sport










    It goes even further in providing an ability to alter the math used in the road speed calculation to cater for different wheel sizes and MPH / KPH aspects as well as setting up an over temperature alert at a user choosable temperature.

    I would humbly add that although the Nanocoms display and processing ability means it cannot do real time trace graphing, and as I have stated custom selection of parameters is a really big ask, it does however have the ability to record all live data to a CSV file on it's SD card, that can now also be set to be done Automatically among other options.

    I unhumbly also add that any number of these CSV files can then be pulled into our recent and free CSV viewer software, where they can be filtered as desired, replayed at multiple speeds, merged, zoomed into, out of, are shown in real time and much, much more etc. This software provides simply outstanding capabilities and we are very proud of it.

    Here are a few basic screen shots.











    I can but only hope this all helps in better understanding and appreciating why this is called an instrument mode over just being an input display as well as my statement of it's uniqueness to the Nanocom :-)

    Hiya druids:
    Yep I did indeed understand that the request was for an ability to pick through existing parameters to create a custom page, but as I stated this would not be quick or easy. By example if we did it, we would have to do it for all Engine managements, not just one

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    Old thread I know but...
    Anyone know if the Nanocom can display EGTs for the D4 3.0l TDV6? The 3.0l TDV6 has EGT sensors and I know the GAP Iidtool can display EGT, but I cannot find EGT in the Nanocom Instrument Display screens??

    Anyone know if this is doable??

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjc_td5 View Post
    Old thread I know but...
    Anyone know if the Nanocom can display EGTs for the D4 3.0l TDV6? The 3.0l TDV6 has EGT sensors and I know the GAP Iidtool can display EGT, but I cannot find EGT in the Nanocom Instrument Display screens??

    Anyone know if this is doable??

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    It certainly cant display EGT in instrument mode, i went through all the D4 engine management's electric diagrams as that EGT thing seemed odd to me and i can tell you 100% that there's no EGT sensor shown in the diagrams... so if that GAP IID shows such value IMO it's some emulated or calculated figure not a real thing, there are two sensors on the exhaust but IMO they can't be named EGT if we consider the real EGT being pre-turbo, there is one pre-CAT and one post CAT temp sensor unfortunately not shown by nanocom according to the emulator i've seen so maybe the pre-CAT one can be considered as post turbo EGT?.... nanocom is a smart tool so if there was a EGT sensor i'm sure it would have displayed that reading but i have no personal experience with the D4 i'm just grasping at straws based on the electric diagrams

    can you provide some evidence about that EGT reading shown by the GAP tool cos it's really strange

    EDIT: digging deeper... in the 5 electric diagrams of "Electronic engine controlls" no EGT sensor is shown while in the workshop manual same "Electrionic engine controlls - Component locations" layout there is one on the downpipe nr 1 in the scheme named exactly "EGT sensor" so a post-turbo EGT, i have read the system's "Description and operation" too and nothing mentioned about this sensor either .... so it appears in only one component layout but not in the electric diagrams nor in the system's description which is in the same chapter with the layout which shows it .... i'm stumped
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    Quote Originally Posted by sierrafery View Post
    It certainly cant display EGT in instrument mode, i went through all the D4 engine management's electric diagrams as that EGT thing seemed odd to me and i can tell you 100% that there's no EGT sensor shown in the diagrams... so if that GAP IID shows such value IMO it's some emulated or calculated figure not a real thing, there are two sensors on the exhaust but IMO they can't be named EGT if we consider the real EGT being pre-turbo, there is one pre-CAT and one post CAT temp sensor unfortunately not shown by nanocom according to the emulator i've seen so maybe the pre-CAT one can be considered as post turbo EGT?.... nanocom is a smart tool so if there was a EGT sensor i'm sure it would have displayed that reading but i have no personal experience with the D4 i'm just grasping at straws based on the electric diagrams

    can you provide some evidence about that EGT reading shown by the GAP tool cos it's really strange

    EDIT: digging deeper... in the 5 electric diagrams of "Electronic engine controlls" no EGT sensor is shown while in the workshop manual same "Electrionic engine controlls - Component locations" layout there is one on the downpipe nr 1 in the scheme named exactly "EGT sensor" so a post-turbo EGT, i have read the system's "Description and operation" too and nothing mentioned about this sensor either .... so it appears in only one component layout but not in the electric diagrams nor in the system's description which is in the same chapter with the layout which shows it .... i'm stumped
    The 3.0l TDV6 has EGT probes. Attached is an extract from the workshop manual. There is one for each turbo bank. The data is collected, it is just if the Nanocom will display it.
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    Yes that's what i've seen in that component layout as well, though as i said in the same TDV6's electric circuit diagrams no such sensor appears to be connected to the ECU and in the system's description is not mentioned either... i checked all the 5 sheets of diagrams and the description that's why i'm confused also nanocom doesnt have such reading displayed...also IMO a proper EGT probe should be fitted before the turbo not after it even though this is subject of many debates
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    Here are the first pages from the workshop manual where the EGT appears in the component layout then nothing about it in the overview and further in the description and operation only the components named in the overview list are described :

    ELECTRONIC ENGINE CONTROLS - TDV6 3.0L DIESEL


    ELECTRONIC ENGINE CONTROLS - COMPONENT LOCATION (G1246384)



    DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION

    Component Location - Sheet 1 of 3



    ITEM DESCRIPTION
    1 Exhaust gas temperature sensor
    2 DPF (diesel particulate filter) pressure pipes (connected to differential pressure sensor located on top of transmission)
    3 DPF temperature sensors
    4 DPF
    5 Catalyst (RH (right-hand) bank)
    6 HO2S (heated oxygen sensor)
    7 Pre-catalyst temperature sensor



    ELECTRONIC ENGINE CONTROLS - TDV6 3.0L DIESEL

    ELECTRONIC ENGINE CONTROLS - OVERVIEW (G1246385)



    DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION


    OVERVIEW
    The 3.0L V6 diesel engine has an ECM (engine control module) controlled engine management system. Multiple sensor inputs and precision control of actuators are used by the ECM to achieve optimum performance during all driving conditions.
    The ECM receives and processes information from the following input sources:

    • Oil level sensor
    • Secondary turbocharger shut-off sensor
    • Secondary turbocharger boost pressure sensor
    • Generator
    • Differential pressure sensor
    • CMP (camshaft position) sensor
    • CKP (crankshaft position) sensor
    • Fuel rail pressure sensor
    • Fuel temperature sensor
    • Air charge temperature sensor
    • ECT (engine coolant temperature) sensor
    • TP (throttle position) sensor
    • MAF (mass air flow) sensor
    • MAF/IAT (intake air temperature) sensor
    • MAP (manifold absolute pressure) sensor
    • EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) sensors
    • HO2S (heated oxygen sensor)
    • Catalyst and Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) temperature sensors
    • Brake lamp switch

    The ECM outputs controlling signals to the following sensors and actuators:

    • A/C (air conditioning) compressor clutch solenoid
    • A/C compressor clutch
    • Fuel injectors
    • Glow plug relay
    • Fuel pressure control valve
    • Fuel volume control valve
    • Fan control module
    • Vacuum control valves (EGR cooler by-pass, secondary turbocharger compressor shut-off, secondary turbocharger turbine shut-off)
    • ABS (anti-lock brake system) module
    • TCM (transmission control module)
    • Instrument cluster
    • RCM (restraints control module)
    • Primary turbocharger control module
    • EGR recirculation valves
    • Alternator
    • Throttle actuator
    • Secondary turbocharger compressor recirculation valve




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