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    Nanocom & Instrument Mode improvements & Idea

    Although the Nanocom Evolution does of course provide all the usual diagnostic abilities, it also provides what we call an instrument mode, that in short provides a selection of pages that can be used for displaying additional information to the driver via its TFT screen, like pressures, Air & fuel flow / usage and much more.

    I don't know how many Nanocom owners use this particular feature, but I do know that to some it represents much more day to day type usefullness to Nanocom ownership, which is why we also offer a Windscreen type mount.

    For TD5 engined Vehicle owners, it has always been possible to configure their Nanocoms such that when powered up it auto starts in Instrument mode, and likewise they have had the ability to record the Data to a CSV file on an inserted SD card, such that those expert with the likes of Microsofts Excel can import and use the data.

    In recent months however, it is quite an understaement to say we have vastly improved things.

    To start with, we created the additional CSV viewer software I have already posted about in this section, which is very powerful.
    This then caused us to address and re work a lot of unit type and timing information issues in the instrument mode itself, for which we are still working on the documentation.
    We then added Instrument modes for all other Vehicle engine managements, including my own 2010 Sport.
    We then added CSV saving functions for all of them.
    Next we made it so that Auto start was possible on CAN BUS vehicles.
    We then Implimented an auto recording feature.
    Along the way we have provided editable Tyre Co efficients on all Instrument modes to deal with MPH V KMH/ KPH road speeds.
    We have also implimented over temperature warnings, that most recently I am testing differing sound options as well as flashing warning effects.

    Most lately we have tackeld the possibility that when the instrument mode is Auto started as well as having set up Auto Record, but their is no SD card present, that you now have an option to either insert one and carry on, or temporarily cancel auto record until the next Auto start.

    It really seems that we have been following and chasing a path where solving one problem or adding some new improvement, leads to another problem or issue arizing, even if it is of lesser note, that TBH we have spent more time chasing that we ever imagined and at some point will have to call it a day on this.

    I personally am probably the greatest benefactor of these recent improvements,
    I got Instrument Mode for my own Can BUS vehicle in the form of a choice of about 5 pages to choose from.
    I got the ability to set my Nanocom to automatically enter instrument mode when I power it up, which i can do with just touching the screen for a couple of seconds.
    I got the ability to save the data to my SD card.
    I got the ability to now set this data saving to be automatically done.
    I got the ability to analyse the fies and data and even replay it all on my PC.
    I got the ability to set up a display of MPH or KPH based road speeds
    I got the ability to set up an over temp warning, featuring selectable sounds and even a flashing warning display.

    I reallly feel that I should be happy, but having all this has maybe left me a little spoiled. This is because every time my instrument mode starts / Auto starts, it is always showing the first screen, however my viewing preference is actually the third screen. I just love to see the Inlet manifold pressure / Turbo Boost Pressure compared to Ambient.

    I know it is only a couple of button presses to change the displayed page to the third page, but it is not so easy in practice when you are driving etc.

    As the Boss, I could just demand / Ask that my guys add yet another feature to an alreadly seemingly endless chain in the form of the ability and functionality that the Nanocom Remember the last displayed page, such that it would return to that page. However I do wonder if I am taking things too far and may be concentrating too much on my own personal preferences.

    So I thought that I might solicit a more wider input and gather opinion from other Nanocom owners / Instrument mode users.

    So I ask the question, does anyone else see a benefit to having the Nanocom auto start it's Instrument mode in a display Page other than the first ?

    ATB

    Colin
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    Don't be apologetic for the numerous functions that you have now designed and are adding to the Nanocom functionality.

    I use the instrument mode regularly on the Td5 Defender and have often thought that it would be nice if it auto started on the desired page. I also look forward to the temperature warning feature that you are working on - a very useful addition which will eliminate the need (and cost) for a separate instrument.

    However, I must confess that I haven't had the time recently to explore all of this amazing instrument's capabilities. To date I haven't even found the OBDII socket in the Freelander to use it there.

    Thanks again Colin for all these enhancements without the additional charges so often found with other software based systems. It's no wonder that Nanocoms hold their value so well and have so many satisfied owners - many of us who haven't yet utilised anywhere near their full capabilities.

    I must go and find that OBDII socket on the Freelander now!
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    Hi Colin. Please don't stop your enhancements thinking. The unit has come a long way, as have your support mechanisms.

    Of course you could always revisit the instrument mode (which I use regularly with my 2 Evo units which are permanently fitted into my cars (along with carrying a BBS kicker in the RRC).
    I did raise with you some time ago the possibility of not only accessing separate pages, but also the prospect of individual/customisable menus for each page. For example, I normally use page 1 because I'm paranoid about overheating (audio in addition to the visual warning will be great) but I really don't normally need to read revs or speed because they are in the main dash, and a choice of alternative replacement readings would be great.
    Likewise many people (not me) have a separate boost gauge often in conjunction with EGT, so they would not need that function on page 1.

    I realise we are dealing in the outer regions here, BUT if you feel inclined to continue fiddling, for which we are very grateful, no harm in asking!!!!
    Cheers and keep up the good work. Gavin
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    Hi Colin.

    You know i am still trying to decide between your unit and another for my D3. Something i really want a diagnostic tool for is live readings for temp for transmission and engine, as well as other interesting tidbits like exhaust temp and throttle position.

    A customisable page would be awesome, and would make the unit that much more of a permanent fixture. Lots of people mount extra gauges and temp alarms and to have all of that it one, customisable unit which does so much more... well i think that would be awesome.

    Cheers

    Dan
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    Hi Colin,
    Love the ongoing development.
    I haven't seriously entertained keeping the unit permanently plugged in cos of the cable and OBD port position. Even a right angle plug would keep the cable away from my right foot more.
    That aside, it'd be super cool if when offroading it could start up in suspension mode for adjustments on the fly (rods and other suspension mods could become obsolete!)
    Cheers
    Dean
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    Right angle plugs for the Evo end are available, and I think BBS even has them in their shop now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gavinwibrow View Post
    Right angle plugs for the Evo end are available, and I think BBS even has them in their shop now?
    Sweet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBS Guy View Post
    So I ask the question, does anyone else see a benefit to having the Nanocom auto start it's Instrument mode in a display Page other than the first ?
    Good idea! I also like Gavin's suggestion of being able to customise what parameters are displayed on each screen, but suspect that will be a step too far at present.

    Cheers

    Steve

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    Thanks to all for your feedback on this,

    following which I have one of my guys on this instrument selection page save / auto return feature addition already, and will hopefully be trialing it myself when it is implimented before it gets into the next Beta release.
    TBH I really cannot wait and due to these recent changes find myself becoming more a daily user of the Nanocom rather than the owner of the company that makes it, if that makes sense

    As such I also find the idea of a customisable Instrument mode page appealing, however knowing the equipment as i do, as many suspect, implimenting that, even if possible at all, would take many months of work and have a very heavy impact on the Nanocoms Graphic resources that I believe would indeed be a step too far.

    In apologizing for this, I would humbly ask everyone to consider that the Instrument mode function is not something any other diagnostic equipment provider includes at all. The nanocom freely provides this as an additional benefit and function that is barely mentioned in our sales literature, if at all.

    We have clearly already invested a substantial amount of time, money and resources that almost entirely and at no additional cost, mainly benefits existing owners, especially given that prospective owners will likely only ever discover the instrument mode functionality the Nanocom has some time after they have purchased one.

    I once again have case to thank the members of this forum for their input, assistance, feedback and guidance.

    Warmest regards and thanks to all

    Colin
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBS Guy View Post
    ...Instrument mode function is not something any other diagnostic equipment provider includes at all.
    Not really familiar with nanocom so perhaps I'm misunderstanding something about what 'instrument mode' is. And my intention is not to start an argument about which gadget is better. I'm sure your product and service is competitive with alternatives in the market, however, I'm not sure what you're saying here is correct.

    GAP's IID tool allows from 1 to six of any selected parameter to be displayed live, either as a numeric display of changing values or as a graph updating in real time. The user picks and chooses as they wish from anything that is being measured, all displayed at the same time on the same display.

    Perhaps nanocom's 'instrument mode' is something different to what GAP is doing. If so then I guess this is an opportunity to explain the difference to those who are not yet nanocom owners.
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