G wagon hopeless

Hi Bill, a few more clues here but whoever took the pics really did a bad job at chosing the interesting parts

cheers Don

http://www.g-club-ruhrgebiet.de/cms/...ive1/6x6/6.jpg

http://www.g-club-ruhrgebiet.de/cms/...ive1/6x6/5.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...12/11/1352.jpg

Thanks Disco and Don for the pics again. It is as I suspected, the radius arms on both rear axles scribe opposite arcs during axle articulation, which would place the universal joints of the short rear propshaft in a bind if articulation wasn't as severely restricted as it indeed is. Not really accepted engineering practice for tandem drive cross country bogie suspension, so that's it I'm not buying one;)
Bill.

Todays "Gold Coast Bulletin" Newspaper has an artile titled "ADF's German Invasion" on page 67, an article on the G-waggon.

This article says in part:--

"With Automatic transmission and airconditioning in a more modern, ciurrent generation design, the Germans have proved more capable and more comfortable than the ADF's Landrovers, which will have been phased out of service by 2020......"

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Originally Posted by wagoo

Thanks Disco and Don for the pics again. It is as I suspected, the radius arms on both rear axles scribe opposite arcs during axle articulation, which would place the universal joints of the short rear propshaft in a bind if articulation wasn't as severely restricted as it indeed is. Not really accepted engineering practice for tandem drive cross country bogie suspension, so that's it I'm not buying one;)
Bill.

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High angle UJs should solve that (if not already fitted)...

As for load sharing - swap the coils for air springs and link them between 2&3 on the same side...

AFAIK the 6x6 was designed specifically for the australian contract??? But is now part of the standard W461 lineup - available almost everywhere except Australia. Will be interesting to see how it works long term...

correct..

all told across the fleet theres something like 30 "firsts" for the gaywagon not all of them are being offered as fleet options.

I would like to know the length of the front and rear/s radius arms....

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Originally Posted by uninformed

I would like to know the length of the front and rear/s radius arms....

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If the drawings on Dons post #141 are anything like to scale the rear bogie RAs are about the same length as the diameter of the tyres 31-32'' from pivot to centre of axle tube ?
Bill

this might help
W461 4x4 rear trailing arm (dimension C) , 733mm if I read the diagram correctly

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...12/11/1320.jpg

the text that goes with the drawing is

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Reference dimension Controlarm front 760mm (+/-0,5)
Reference dimension Trailing arm front 706 mm
Reference dimension Controlarm rear 965 mm(+/-0,5)
Reference dimension Trailing arm rear 733 mm



©2006 Gwagen.de!

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might be some loss in translation but what they call "trailing Arm Front' I would call a Radius Arm

may be some useful info here too,
Cant read greman but I gather the older w460 and newer w461 and 463 TA's are the same thing,
I assume 6x6 uses same part.

Längslenker Hinterachse Mercedes G-Modell G-Klasse 460 461 463 trailing arm rear | eBay

and the price of the ebay item makes this one a bargain

http://gwagenpreserve.com/index.php?...emart&Itemid=8

Found another pic
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...12/11/1319.jpg


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Would you really need to stop to press that? Are the G's an actual improvement on the Rovers?

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Well the G-Wagon is a hell of a lot more comfortable than a Perentie 110.
As for 4WDing ability, I won't be able to tell you until I get on the G-Wagon course, hopefully some time in the next few months . . .