Mercedes Benz 6x6.................

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Originally Posted by uninformed

Well you sort of anwserd you own question. But my point was that for $350k or more likely less. ...

... The point of using a LR was that A it would be an easier task to mod and get road legal than starting a vehicle from scratch, and B since most people here are comapring the modded Gwagon to a LR 6x6, thats kinda the point.

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The cost of the engineering is only minimal when you consider that the modifications still have to be engineered. Even my Reynolds-Boughton 6X6 which was a LR factory supplied unit, has to be engineered because it has never been registered in Australia. It's just had it's first engineer review before I start building it back up.

My point is that it would be better to start from a blank piece of paper and build up something good or excellent from scratch on a standard Defender chassis which you modify to your own design rather than spending the extra dollars to buy an already built 6X6 that you have to throw away thousands of dollars of gear that isn't what you want.

It's just the humble opinion from someone that already has a 6X6 Defender.

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Originally Posted by manic

If they are as tough as they look and turn out to be near on unbreakable

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sadly, they aint.

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

The cost of the engineering is only minimal when you consider that the modifications still have to be engineered. Even my Reynolds-Boughton 6X6 which was a LR factory supplied unit, has to be engineered because it has never been registered in Australia. It's just had it's first engineer review before I start building it back up.

My point is that it would be better to start from a blank piece of paper and build up something good or excellent from scratch on a standard Defender chassis which you modify to your own design rather than spending the extra dollars to buy an already built 6X6 that you have to throw away thousands of dollars of gear that isn't what you want.

It's just the humble opinion from someone that already has a 6X6 Defender.

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thats fine, and its just my humble opinion that its easier to get mods engineered than a whole vehicle from scratch......And since I said start with an AUS army or CIVILIAN LR 6x6, which is already recognised as road legal in Oz, kinda makes your last post moot..but as you are the expert I figured you already know that ;)

enjoy your 6x6

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Originally Posted by uninformed

thats fine, and its just my humble opinion that its easier to get mods engineered than a whole vehicle from scratch......And since I said start with an AUS army or CIVILIAN LR 6x6, which is already recognised as road legal in Oz, kinda makes your last post moot..but as you are the expert I figured you already know that ;)

enjoy your 6x6

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The minute you remove the drum brakes from the perentie 6x6, or add portals it needs engineering, the difference between the cost of engineering of the modified Au registered 6X6 and the imported 6x6 is minimal, the only additional engineering on the RB is the ADR compliance. This will still happen when you start your $350K build.

IMHO neither the leaf springs on the perentie or the coil springs on the AMG 6X6 or LR-Reynolds Boughton 6X6 are ideal, I would much prefer load sharing EAS and that requires engineering. Neither the perentie or the LR-RB have axle diff locks.

Save money and built from scratch.

so If I have your "factory LR 6x6" a Aus Civilian 6x6 and a custom scratch built 6x6, they will all cost the same to get registered?

There is one there that requires no engineering ;)

Modding suspension adding portals etc will ALL require engineering. BUT some of these things have already been done by other people so the path/presedent is set. Building a vehicle from scratch is a much larger engineering exercise.

Just my humble opinion from someone that has seen 2 ICV built.

save money and mod a Aus LR 6x6 :p

How many of you have experience with this type of vehicle?,I don't mean ''my mates dad had one Blah Blah'' I mean a serious drive in one?.I had a Patrol 6 wheeler made by 6 wheeler in Queensland as a work vehicle and as a offroader they are rubbish,as a load carrier they are rubbish,in general they are rubbish. Pat

I once met a guy, that knew a guy, that punched a hole right through another guy..............does that count? :D

I also enjoyed the company of my Tow truck driver and his stories....one of which was some xa falcon he built with the gearbox out of Dick Johnson's racing sierra and a 2speed jag read diff. Capable of over 180mph. I totally believed him (I really didnt want the tow to cost me $$ dollars than it had to)

Now regarding a 6x6 Pat, my comments are just that, and all Im saying Is I think a person (with the right help) could build a more capable 6x6 based on a LR 6x6, all be it modded.

But I dont have $3.50 to rub together, let alone $350k

BTW, those genuine LR door seals = 50 quid each and door sill seals = 15 quid each + shipping of coarse ;)

Hands on experience in a 6 wheeler?
You betcha. I worked for my mates dad as a drilling offsider, he had about 5.
They were all 6X4 though. Hated them. Naturally aspirated gutless toyota engines, even with over a tonne in the rear they were shocking to handle.
No thank you.

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Originally Posted by MBZ460

..that does not mean the ADF G's are "gaywagens"

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Sure does, they all are.

its called a G wagen by its formal abbreviation, Get a german (fair request in my book, they made it) to pronounce the first letter (Attachment 57572)and then the last part (Attachment 57573) listen to what they come back with. should sound something like

Attachment 57576(would've sounded better if I could have gotten a decent sound bite of each bit from the same person but you get the idea)


As I like to tell people who insist that It will no longer be called the gaywagon

"The original definition of the word Gay is happiness, do not assume to judge a words association in a term with your judgment of what it is being used to represent"

And as I like to tell people who outrank me

"That's what the german Rep who come over to try and sell us on the product called it, Good enough for the manufacturer, good enough for me"

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Originally Posted by PAT303

How many of you have experience with this type of vehicle?,I don't mean ''my mates dad had one Blah Blah'' I mean a serious drive in one?.I had a Patrol 6 wheeler made by 6 wheeler in Queensland as a work vehicle and as a offroader they are rubbish,as a load carrier they are rubbish,in general they are rubbish. Pat

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Plenty, both landrover and Gaywagon varients.

I'll take the landy, the seat fits me better, its manual, it weighs less, gets better range and has better storage hidey holes for extra bits n pieces, like say a pine box with plenty of jack rats, 6 cartons of beer thats not supposed to be in the exercise area and room between the front seats for an engel big enough to take one of those cartons, some meats, milks and cheeses so that you can at least do the exercise well fed.