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    It's been happening for a long time

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    As you know, the emissions scandal started with certain VW diesel engines.


    I don't know if you have heard yet that VW have now admitted that some of their petrol engines are also at fault.


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    Yep, now its been claimed that some of their vehicles also breach CO2 regulations. They got big tax breaks because the vehicles were claimed to meet low CO2 regulations, but it now appears they didn't comply and VW may have to repay billions to certain governments, including Germany's. It just gets worse for VW, whose share value has fallen 40% because of these scandals. Some models have now been withdrawn from sale. Just shows that cheating companies can come unstuck in a very big way. Did they seriously think no-one would ever notice?
    VW could face billions in car tax repayments over latest CO2 scandal | Business | The Guardian

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    It sounds like they will get a few more heads rather than just a few rouge engineers who VW are trying to blame for 11million ECU's and the defeat code.
    US authorities investigating Bosch’s role in Volkswagen “dieselgate” scandal – report

    See when the scandal first broke Bosch said they told VW specifically not to use that feature of the ECU outside prototype testing as it would be illegal on the road.
    VW Dieselgate Deepens - Reports Bosch Warning Ignored

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    Why are people more upset about this than the deaths from faulty GM ignition switches, Toyota's TPS fault or Takata air bags?
    Yes, VW cheated on the emissions test and it will cause deaths indirectly from climate warming, but the issues directly causing death aren't a big issue?
    These companies denied for years that they were at fault, same as VW. Is there a double standard here or did I miss something?
    Or is it just the size of the cheating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsperka View Post
    Why are people more upset about this than the deaths from faulty GM ignition switches, Toyota's TPS fault or Takata air bags?
    Yes, VW cheated on the emissions test and it will cause deaths indirectly from climate warming, but the issues directly causing death aren't a big issue?
    These companies denied for years that they were at fault, same as VW. Is there a double standard here or did I miss something?
    Or is it just the size of the cheating?
    It depends who you are:

    I think the average VW owner is worried their vehicle will be devalued.
    Regulators are annoyed their (largely honesty based) system has been proven ineffective.
    Scientists now understand why their urban NOx models were underpredicting NOx levels in cities by a factor of 3.
    However the direct health cost may be higher than the sum of the incidents you quote.

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    That's most probably it. People worried about losing more money on the car. After paying a premium for low emissions vehicle.
    Btw: Over 150 deaths due to the other manufacturers and about 70 million cars affected.

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