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    Quote Originally Posted by frantic View Post
    Umm, you've made this claim, but no evidence?
    The original uni study tested vw and bmw, the vw exceeded the U.S. levels of Nox by 35 times , the bmw was only 3 at worst.
    Of course if you could provide a link to a comparison study of NOx emiissions between a vw golf tdi and a tdi Mazda to the eu or us levels it would clarify what your saying?
    It was done months ago in England,vehicles were fitted with testing equipment and driven around London,VAG vehicles were the cleanest by far,do a search,I don't know how to link. Pat

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    Pat what newspaper so we can google it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMKal View Post
    Pretty sure that Ford only owns a very small stake in Mazda - I read somewhere that it's around 2% - so I'd hardly call Mazda a Ford brand.
    Well, I was only seven years behind the times.
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    Again pat, no.
    Four more carmakers join diesel emissions row | Environment | The Guardian
    http://www.theguardian.com/environme...ons-tests-show
    Mazda along with merc and bmw where shown.to be emitting 1.5-4times.nox limit, not the 35 that vw shows.
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    Appears from that story that the tests showed the vehicles were about 7 times over on average, but Mazda diesel results were better than most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frantic View Post
    Again pat, no.
    Four more carmakers join diesel emissions row | Environment | The Guardian
    Wide range of cars emit more pollution in realistic driving tests, data shows | Environment | The Guardian
    Mazda along with merc and bmw where shown.to be emitting 1.5-4times.nox limit, not the 35 that vw shows.
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    Where in that report does it say VW was 35 times over?. Pat

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    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34324772

    This story says some VW vehicles, which include Audi, Skoda and Porsche, emitted up to 40 times the US standards for NOx, which are tougher than the EU standards, which seem to have been poorly designed and implemented, but other companies were also in the wrong, of course.

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    Mick,they didn't run the vehicles on the road with emissions equipment fitted,they just reported that vehicles could produce 40 times the limit without proof,that is the same site that tested the vehicles on the road and found VAG the best and Mazda the worst in real world tests. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    Mick,they didn't run the vehicles on the road with emissions equipment fitted,they just reported that vehicles could produce 40 times the limit without proof,that is the same site that tested the vehicles on the road and found VAG the best and Mazda the worst in real world tests. Pat
    Again, no pat.
    The original study that showed up to 35 times us EPA emissions by vw, not Mazda , WAS done on the road in real world conditions with the emissions gear attached. google it. There are pics and video of it fitted.
    University of west Virginia I think, where actually aiming for the opposite outcome, which was to prove how clean and efficient diesel's where.
    The Academic Paper That Broke the Volkswagen Scandal - The Atlantic
    Found one with a pic.
    http://www.news.com.au/technology/in...1437f6ae86eba5
    Middle is pic of test gear fitted for 2400km testing.
    Last edited by frantic; 14th December 2015 at 05:49 AM. Reason: Pic of test equipment

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    Quote Originally Posted by frantic View Post
    Again, no pat.
    The original study that showed up to 35 times us EPA emissions by vw, not Mazda , WAS done on the road in real world conditions with the emissions gear attached. google it. There are pics and video of it fitted.
    University of west Virginia I think, where actually aiming for the opposite outcome, which was to prove how clean and efficient diesel's where.
    The Academic Paper That Broke the Volkswagen Scandal - The Atlantic
    Found one with a pic.
    VW scandal: How four university students destroyed a company
    Middle is pic of test gear fitted for 2400km testing.
    Again, no frantic.If you read the report it said the vehicles could show figures 35 times over the limit,thats like driving a defender up a steep hill and saying economy wise it could use 20ltre per 100 .I have no interest in emissions,if you want to save the world ride a bike to the shops,what does interest me is the wholesale BS that this ''scandal'' has created. Pat

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