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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    I thought the smoke and mirrors was the new Defender ? Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?
    It might get here before the new defender,then who knows,it might outsell it...

    As others have said,and I tend to agree,it is very difficult for small vehicle manufacturers to survive these days.
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    Its already in private hands, ineos is barely pipe dream.
    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    I thought the smoke and mirrors was the new Defender ? Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    Ok - so nothing to get excited about at this stage - many great ideas and prototypes amount to nothing - haven't heard from Rivian for a while now.
    Ask and ye shall receive...Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangie View Post
    A lot of smoke and mirrors thus far, i don't believe all will come to fruition. A big ask to start up vehicle manufacturing from scratch.
    Not really. They are using Magna Steyr to do the engineering. They design and built lots of cars for lot of manufacturers. Their plant does 200000 cars a year. Ineos is not doing it from scratch. They are using world class companies to do the work.

    Ratcliffe is self made to one of the richest people around. You do not do that by not knowing how to succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangie View Post
    Its already in private hands, ineos is barely pipe dream.
    I was referring to its introduction and marketing campaign versus what it had delivered in the Defender name...so yep.smoke and mirrors. Not saying its not a very good IRS IFS vehicle though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red90 View Post
    Not really. They are using Magna Steyr to do the engineering. They design and built lots of cars for lot of manufacturers. Their plant does 200000 cars a year. Ineos is not doing it from scratch. They are using world class companies to do the work.

    Ratcliffe is self made to one of the richest people around. You do not do that by not knowing how to succeed.
    Still a niche vehicle with a small market so effectively from scratch since Ineos has never released a vehicle prior.
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    For a good ol' triggering from Andrew St Pierre White! Here is a review on the Grenadier from the knuckle dragger. I admit, I couldn't tolerate him for more than a few minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    For a good ol' triggering from Andrew St Pierre White! Here is a review on the Grenadier from the knuckle dragger. I admit, I couldn't tolerate him for more than a few minutes.

    You did better than I could manage! Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

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    It sounds to me like the Grenadier might be the vehicle a lot of people have been looking for.

    If , as it appears to indicate , everything they produce is sold , it doesn't really matter how many they make , as marketing and production experts cost the vehicle out.

    They are not competing against a market, it appears they have their market and other manufacturers may need to compete against the Grenadier.

    Land Rover don't really have the market and they are already trying to set their markets.....already their ordering system is as complex as the vehicle.

    I think if the Grenadier can move forward to it's projected build dates it is going to scare Land Rover something fierce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    It sounds to me like the Grenadier might be the vehicle a lot of people have been looking for.

    If , as it appears to indicate , everything they produce is sold , it doesn't really matter how many they make , as marketing and production experts cost the vehicle out.

    They are not competing against a market, it appears they have their market and other manufacturers may need to compete against the Grenadier.

    Land Rover don't really have the market and they are already trying to set their markets.....already their ordering system is as complex as the vehicle.

    I think if the Grenadier can move forward to it's projected build dates it is going to scare Land Rover something fierce.
    LR wonít be worried at all,itís basically in a market they donít want,and have moved on from it.

    The 70 series is more the market,but no doubt it will just soldier on,leading that section of the market,as it has for many years,in many different countries.

    The challenge for the Grenadier is to be a vehicle that people want,donít complicate it too much, have great reliability,with minimal maintenance costs,and good off road ability.
    paul

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