Rather an engineer than an accountant in charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by weeds
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Rather an engineer than an accountant in charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by weeds
Land Rover no longer make rough terrain or off-road vehicles. They have morphed into a maker of luxury cars. That is where the money is. That is why every maker that once made cheap family chariots now has a "luxury" label.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jojo
I hope it has longer suspension links and a beefier chassis than it appears to have in the teasers.
I know, I know, everyone's a critic. [emoji849][emoji16]
Did you notice the axles are made by an italian tractor builder? ;)
In any case, still seeing good things from them. This might actually be the defender some of us wanted. My only (big) concern is with the BMW engines. BMW has not made a decent engine in years as far as I am concerned and I for one would love the ability to change it out, not that local rules allow for that.
Oh well, here's hoping... (that the economy will not tank, corona will **** of, I will still have the money to buy one, we are still allowed to travel... oh and that it will actually be a good vehicle :) )
-P
I am following this very closely. Hope it is half as good as it is promising. If so we will buy one as our new farm Ute.
Worth regularly checking progress on www.ineosgrenadier.com Also, if you sign up for news, seems you get some stuff before it appears on the website. Looks like progress has been rapid and there may be Ineos Grenadiers around next year. As it will be much more like the Land Rover Defenders we have known than the Land Rover replacement for it, maybe will become appropriate for it to be added to the list of types of vehicles discussed on aulro. Note how the Grenadier will have a box section ladder type chassis and beam axles under coil springs like the older Defender. Also, three litre 6 cylinder petrol or diesel motor. The new so called Defender with monocoque body, independent suspension and a small displacement motor which I gather has only automatic transmission available behind it may be very capable and nice while near new. Very unlikely something any "bush mechanic' would want with sort of things likely to go wrong and be difficult to fix when it gets old though. Including apparently lots of electronics.
So its going to be a Welsh Santana, what a frankenstein with body/chassis from Portugal, German engine, Italian diffs and who knows what else.
Cant see this being affordable for an offroader.
I haven't been following, but if that Italian tractor builder supplying the Axles is Carraro, they make the axles and diffs fo the Iveco 4x4 , the only part of the Iveco yet to give problems apart from the odd leaky oil seal early on. Phenomenally strong and based on the Dana design but the Brembo brakes that come with the axles are absolute ****.
the latest vid is up.
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Nothing much new but a tease that the car will be shown within a couple of weeks.
Cheers,
-P
Hopefully I will need one of these to replace the ( in the distant future) ageing TD5 Defender..
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Plenty of articles on Youtube, I'm afraid the new Defender doesn't do it for me..