Another good reason not to go on Facebook!
Another good reason not to go on Facebook!
MY99 RR P38 HSE 4.6 (Thor) gone (to Tasmania)
2020 Subaru Impreza S ('SWMBO's Express' )
2023 Ineos Grenadier Trialmaster (diesel)
Speaking of Facebook, the new pricing from ARB for their gear for the new Ranger is $4,000 fitted for the Summit Bar MKII so Grenadier is within the range for factory fitted bullbars especially for much wider markets where design and safety has a much wider compliance requirement. Cheers
So far baring some financial disaster I will be getting mine at the end of 2022. Sadly my defender will have to go. But it's been a bit needy lately and I am losing patience with spending more weekend's fixing it than using it.
So, I've been to the "abenteuer und allrad messe" again this year, finally since the coofs got in the way the previous years and there must have been at least half a dozen grenadiers there.
You could get a ride in both the diesel and the petrol version on a test track (no self driving). The ride was bumpy but it went pretty well through that terrain. ASPW has already commented on the footwell and I must agree with him on that. Since every ineos dealer that was on the messe also had a grenadier standing around I got to see half a dozen of them up real close and personal (all test mules) and I am impressed by how beefy the suspension and drive train parts are. This has been discussed in many a youtubers video but seeing it up close and personal is a different thing.
For those not in the know, the shocks are koni's, the transfercase is a custom build tremec, the brakes are brembo, the axles are made by carraro, the springs are made by eibach. All pretty good brands in themselves.
I can see this car fulfilling quite a few needs for most people so I guess it can become quite popular but all in all I think I will not be buying one for a few simple reasons:
- I want to build an overlander vehicle and what I really need is a pop-top camper. The ineos roof does not lend itself for that I reckon. I am sure some companies will take on this challenge but I think it is not going to work out well.
- load carrying capacity: we know it to be on the low side but the type approval plates in the doors of the test mules stated a 1 tonne loading capacity. I wonder what happened to the rest?
- the position of the rear exhaust muffler and the accompanying bash plate is a real sand scoop and it will no doubt be perfect for collecting grass to ignite. I tremendously stupid decision when you look at how well designed most other parts of the vehicle are
- price. It is simply way to expensive. I know it's a much "better" car than the old defender it "replaced" but at 60k starting price it's just at least 10K too steep I feel (in euro's)
- add to that, that in my "lovely" country you pay a ridiculous amount of tax on CO2 which will probably turn out to be around another 60k for a total of 120k euro's...
...and the car is out for me. A shame since I did really like the concept and I would like to put my money where my mouth is, ie. support a company that makes a product I really want (solid axle no bs car) but not in this price bracket.
Anyway, it was nice to get up and close to so many of them all at once
Cheers,
-P
I got the latest newsletter today. Seems they are sponsoring the All Blacks in New Zealand. They have INEOS on their shorts.
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confirmed today that Ineos Grenadier will be LCT exempt in Australia...
Yep good news. But still a $100k risk with a new vehicle and new business. I do hope it succeeds and look forward to Version 2 with the bugs ironed out!
Personally Im not keen on the rear seat arrangement - I really like the D2 setup where you can tilt the seat base forwards to get a flat floor or remove them entirely and nothing in the way for a big load area. That huge electrical spare battery frame thing on the Ineos under the rears seats is a big waste of space. I spose you could put a water tank in there!
Cheers
Simon
2003 D2a TD5, ACE, SLS, Vienna Green.
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