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I agree that the Ineos is OK when both doors are open, However I'm concerned about the situation when you just have something small to throw in the back and just want to use the small door while leaving the larger section closed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozscott
The small rear door is Okay for shopping bags etc. Really its not much effort to open 2 doors is it. I would of liked a tailgate. Jobs around the property you can leave it down and drive about picking up hay bails etc. Or picnic on the tailgate makes a great seat and table. I think perhaps they are hard to seal effectively and that's why they didn't go that way. But im only guessing. My old classic Rangie was brilliant with a tailgate. But it would let in plenty of dust.
The D4 tailgate was very well sealed,in fact that car did a better job keeping out dust than any D2 we owned.The LC200 tailgate is sealed just as well as the D4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deefa
So it can be done.
MCGovern,how ever his name is spelt,the LR CEO(or whatever),was asked why the tailgate was dropped,on D5,and he mentioned some cock and bull garbage that they are a target for rust.I have never seen a modern vehicle with a rusty tailgate,yet alone a D3/4.And there are a lot that do beach work.Maybe he was thinking of an old RR classic.[bighmmm]Or an old Falcon.
Its a real shame they have now been dropped by just about every manufacturer,as they are so handy.Particularly when travelling and touring,camping,etc.
I think it is a cost saving factor,nothing else,and an easier set up to manufacture.
All you had to do to stop that was wind the windows up and open the fresh air from the plenum. (Cold non-recirc through the heater) Dunno if yours had quarter vents...............Quote:
Originally Posted by Deefa
DL
20 years ago, I used a Patrol for work alot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xtreme
The split doors were OK most if the time, but you did need to open both a lot if the time.
The real problem was when you had a trailer on, the doors only open 90 deg, and the trailer drawbar occupies almost all of the space between the doors.
The up side is less reach into the back of the car.
My preference is for a tailgate, but you still have two doors to open, upper and lower tailgate, like my 130.
The single lift up door on our Subaru works well and gives a small undercover space in inclement weather, but the number plate depression collects a surprising amount of water in heavy rain 🤨
Tony
The small door IS small. I reckon a crate of beer would be a squeeze if it would fit at all. Shopping bags no problem. A golf bag? might also be tight if you've got enough in it.
When I tested the car last summer I found it to be the right choice though since it makes the other door slightly smaller which aides a lot in getting it open and stuff in when parked. Most people do not leave enough room in busy parkings for a full size rear door to open but the slightly shorter door will work. The added benefit is that when closing the small door to get through, the bigger door is wide enough to accept most cargo.
It looks a bit off and the small door is almost useless but it pays of in the bigger picture imho.
-P
If it fits a carton in then it is good enough.
Cheers
If you are in Vic, and you are not on the list of invitees for a drive etc, apparently there will be a Grenadier stand here: https://www.vic4wdshow.com.au/
That would make it a slam drunk. [bigrolf]Quote:
Originally Posted by ozscott
Oh droll, very droll.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot;[URL="tel:3181303"