Because of it's Aussie bent I watched the Wheels one first. I expected a bunch of 'it's not a Toyota' commentary. Instead, it left me wanting a Grenadier....Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot
[bigsad]
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Because of it's Aussie bent I watched the Wheels one first. I expected a bunch of 'it's not a Toyota' commentary. Instead, it left me wanting a Grenadier....Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot
[bigsad]
As someone who paid my own money and bought a Defender new in 2005.. when I look at the grenadier it's exactly what I wanted in a "New Defender".Quote:
Originally Posted by Tins
Every car has compromises and positives and negatives. But... literally the only thing I can pin on it is it's not as big in the back as my current car, but space is space and they have put it into the passenger compartment which is what that car needs. 1947 ergonomics be gone. Thankfully.
It will be a sad day when the defender goes down the driveway but that's progress. I'm very glad I held true to what I know and have experienced and didn't buy a "Defender". I'll forever be disappointed that LR sold out and built a Discovery and not a Grenadier. It's not that I don't like Discoveries but they could have had both in their product lineup. Oh well.
This car was always IMHO going to either be a Unicorn or a total lemon. I need a bit more time but I'm leaning towards unicorn.
If you particularly don't want to like the Grenadier - I suggest you go off line for a bit.
The Ineos Grenadier is not just the machine the Defender could never have been, there’s really nothing else quite like it.
2023 Ineos Grenadier review
I hope it does well.. still won’t be the ultimate *tow* tourer as even its payload becomes limited.
833kg
Driver 80kg
Passenger 80kg
2x Sumo Kids 130kg
Bullbar 60kg
Winch 25kg
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375kg
+350kg ball weight
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725kg
+the 10% fuel missing say 10kg
98kg to play with and no accessories have been added except bar and winch.
Perfect tourer for just a couple though, not towing.
I wonder when we will see GVM upgrades for it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
Possibly already in the development pipeline.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot;[URL="tel:3182007"
Is there any car that will do what you are asking load wise?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
A mate of mine weighed his hilux and he had 75kg in total after he filled his tank. And.. the front axle was over and he couldn't legally get a driver in the front seat. And the car was empty. [bigsad]
Maybe never as it will probably be a low volume seller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot
There is a heap of testing and engineering that goes into them before they are passed by the regulators.
The GVM upgrades for the LC300 have only been available in the last month or so,and they were started before the vehicle was released in Aus.
I will wait for the hype and excitement to die down and for some runs to be on the board for the vehicle as a WHOLE not just hope that it is the sum total of its well sourced parts.. It's not all hype though...
2023 Ineos Grenadier Review: Work to be done on this workhorse - Hagerty Media
Cheers
To answer the OP's question I think they will take off but slowly, as I went for a drive to Toowoomba this weekend to escape the heat wave which wasn't as bad nor as long lasting as predicted, but nevertheless I'd made plans to go past the Armstrong car detailer the Ineos agent in Toowoomba, but they didn't even have one on display and not even a sign that they are the Ineos agent.