Thread: Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

Hmm…. About 1/2 Ton more than a D2 for only slightly more room….

Originally Posted by goingbush

I have not read this entire thread,
I was all for the Grenadier but lost interest when I found out how heavy they were.
Between 2600 & 2700kg , what are they thinking, they will be awesome offload - NOT. Strip all the crap out & try again.
Heavier than the new Lardarse Defender. The Iveco Daily 4x4 is only 2750kg. The Landcruiser 300 Series on only 2495kg FFS.

Seems to depend on who's talking. The 2600-2700 figure seems to be referring to the prototype at it's current point of development.

Heilmann puts its kerb weight at somewhere between 2600 and 2700kg in the development phase it finds itself in right now,

(Source: https://www.drive.com.au/reviews/202...totype-review/)

The Grenadier Wagon is expected to have a kerb weight around 2500kg, with a one-tonne payload and 3500kg maximum braked towing capacity.

( Source: Unsealed 4X4 - All-new INEOS Grenadier 4x4 wagon and ute here soon from around $80k!)

And if that article has got the price about right..... If I was in the market the Grenadier would be much higher on my list than the LC300, the new Defender or any of the LC 7x things. But hey, I have an OKA which weighs twice as much, so what do I know?

Interesting that Ineos sees alternative power as the Grenadier's future.

Originally Posted by Tins

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Interesting that Ineos sees alternative power as the Grenadier's future.

And, according to the Ineos marketing manager last week, that "alternative power" is hydrogen, not electric.

Originally Posted by Xtreme

And, according to the Ineos marketing manager last week, that "alternative power" is hydrogen, not electric.

Good.

see....back on track.... easy

yes what will this thing weigh when you load it up for a 2wk bush trip?

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

see....back on track.... easy

yes what will this thing weigh when you load it up for a 2wk bush trip?

Given that a D4 has a kerb weight of 2583kg (HSE: Land Rover Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 245HP HSE Technical Specs, Dimensions) the Grenadier will weigh about the same as a D4 loaded the same. However the Grenadier has a greater payload so I guess it could get heavier.

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

see....back on track.... easy

yes what will this thing weigh when you load it up for a 2wk bush trip?

In comparison My 130 has a kerb weight of 1893KG with no driver, add a 200KG tray a couple of passengers and it will pretty quickly get to 2600KG, although at the kerb weight it does have a load capacity of 1600KG. But it has basically no structural integrity in the cab or rollover protection, minimal sound proofing etc, so 2600 for the Grenadier as a touring weight is not unreasonable.

Regards,
Tote

Originally Posted by Xtreme

And, according to the Ineos marketing manager last week, that "alternative power" is hydrogen, not electric.

Fuel cell technology,at a guess?

Which is the only way,EV wont suit the majority of the target market.

Toyota are going the same way with LC.
They are years ahead of the others,having had fuel cell vehicles on the road for over 12 yrs in the US.