Thread: Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

I think Tombie hit the mark. The biggest issue is laying out 6 figures of hard earned not knowing if the brand will survive. If it was priced to steal away the massive dual cab ute market in Australia that would help it a lot. A basic one with at least a rear locker for say $75k on the road and even Wildtrack fans may come across and those who might stretch to a Defender but would love to make a saving. Don't see too many of those who would buy a 300 series or a 70 Series opting for one. Cheers

Originally Posted by Deefa

But so are cruisers, actually more. I tried to do a comparison but in many ways its trying to compare apples with oranges. Toyota dont tell you how much its really going to cost unless you call the dealer. 300 series start at $96 k with no accessories. So Grenadier is 84.5k with no accessories as a two seater, or 85.5 k as a 5 seater. Its only when you add bits it adds up! And taxes etc.

Deefa

The 300 series starts at $98k on road whereas the INEOS starts at $85.5 with out on roads

Originally Posted by Deefa

I know what you mean. I've got half a lifetime of maybe one day jobs to do

I wish mine were 1 day jobs.

Originally Posted by ozscott

Probably 4 star on the crash test but every prospect it will do very well on real life crash 'tests'. Cheers

If the Grenadier doesn’t/can’t make Ancap 5 it will lose a significant portion of its sales.

No mine fleets
No government fleets
No emergency services

Originally Posted by Tombie

If the Grenadier doesn’t/can’t make Ancap 5 it will lose a significant portion of its sales.

No mine fleets
No government fleets
No emergency services

I recall one of the main Engineers or designers (can't recall which) saying openly early on that it would be 4 star and very solid. So yep it will not garner fleets but I venture to say it would unlikely garner such customers for many years even if could achieve 5 stars. Cheers

Originally Posted by chuck

Deefa

The 300 series starts at $98k on road whereas the INEOS starts at $85.5 with out on roads

LC 300,GXL around $110K,VX around $120K,driveaway,makes it a better buy than Grenadia,for many reasons,particularly the ones Tombie has brought up.

Then there is the Defender,with a multitude of models and options at all sorts of prices,for those that want one.

I dont think the 70 series,no matter which model is comparable,even the 76 is pretty utilitarian,and more of a commercial vehicle.

Originally Posted by chuck

Deefa

The 300 series starts at $98k on road whereas the INEOS starts at $85.5 with out on roads

Ok sorry I thought that was plus on roads. Just had a look and you are correct. The cruiser price includes rego for 12 months, dealer delv and stamp duty. However I'm not sure that includes the Luxury car tax? It does say in the disclaimer plus statutory taxes. They usually state a price for ABN holders as if you have an ABN and its going to be used for a business then LCT does not apply.

Rego and stamp duty for QLD is about $4500 so Grenadier around say 90k for very basic model. Not a huge amount in it but probably as others said the Landcruiser is a safer bet.

Originally Posted by chuck

Deefa

The 300 series starts at $98k on road whereas the INEOS starts at $85.5 with out on roads

Why we comparing a 300 series with a Ineos - they are a different class of vehicle - might as well as compare a Ineos with FF RR.

Need to compare apples with apples - Ineos competes with the Toyota 70 series in Aust - I really dont see anything else - except maybe for a basic Defender.