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Thread: Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirate View Post
    Haha yep he strikes me to be one of those whose opinion is the only one that matters.

    However on his review that Gav shared above I tend to agree with his assessment on the Grenadier.

    I also found the pedal layout and footrest that covers an intrusion caused by the exhaust routing a bit weird. I didn’t alter the seat height that may make it feel a little less weird.

    As for fuel load I’ve dealt with the 75ltr in the Defender for the last 22 years so an extra 15 is a bonus 😬

    Mines ordered but won’t be selling the defender
    Wish I didn't have to sell my Defender but cant afford not to. Did you get an estimated build date? They supposed to have sent a build date within 24 hours I paid the deposit on Friday but still no build date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deefa View Post
    Wish I didn't have to sell my Defender but cant afford not to. Did you get an estimated build date? They supposed to have sent a build date within 24 hours I paid the deposit on Friday but still no build date.
    check into your "Account" on the IG website. Click on where it says "Orders" ...it initially may indicate there are none then it changes! I've still not received a separate confirmation, but there is a *.pdf doc with all the info. in the account section.

    I finally put my deposit in after considerable thought... Went for the basic IG Station Wagon with the "rough pack" (= triple diffs and BFG KO2 tyres) plus a towbar. NO bullbar, winch or roof rack (won't clear the roller door frame otherwise) Came in at a shade over $90K with a final 'drive away' figure of $103K incl GST/LCT/Qld Stamp duty/ Rego/CTP/Dealer delivery! Was within a few hundred of what I conservatively estimated...didn't know what the delivery fee might be. Until they get some indication as to their success or otherwise in removing the LCT impost, I'll think about a few other things later.
    Estimated build date Nov2022. I've read "somewhere" that the Ineos Aust management are seeking to get at least a few hundred Australian orders done all at once which would make sense instead of dribs and drabs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoges View Post
    check into your "Account" on the IG website. Click on where it says "Orders" ...it initially may indicate there are none then it changes! I've still not received a separate confirmation, but there is a *.pdf doc with all the info. in the account section.

    I finally put my deposit in after considerable thought... Went for the basic IG Station Wagon with the "rough pack" (= triple diffs and BFG KO2 tyres) plus a towbar. NO bullbar, winch or roof rack (won't clear the roller door frame otherwise) Came in at a shade over $90K with a final 'drive away' figure of $103K incl GST/LCT/Qld Stamp duty/ Rego/CTP/Dealer delivery! Was within a few hundred of what I conservatively estimated...didn't know what the delivery fee might be. Until they get some indication as to their success or otherwise in removing the LCT impost, I'll think about a few other things later.
    Estimated build date Nov2022. I've read "somewhere" that the Ineos Aust management are seeking to get at least a few hundred Australian orders done all at once which would make sense instead of dribs and drabs...
    Ive done that but it says ordered but not showing the build date. The document comes up but no information on that. Interesting as if you click on the link at the bottom of that document it goes back to the configuration and you can edit this. Ive done similar to you, just a basic SW with the rough pack and a few extras. As far as I can gather it comes with a towbar and the NAS spec towbar is an option as it is height adjustable. Could be wrong though. I figure ill add winch and bull bar as funds allow. Maybe there will be aftermarket gear soon enough after they come out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deefa View Post
    Ive done that but it says ordered but not showing the build date. The document comes up but no information on that. Interesting as if you click on the link at the bottom of that document it goes back to the configuration and you can edit this. Ive done similar to you, just a basic SW with the rough pack and a few extras. As far as I can gather it comes with a towbar and the NAS spec towbar is an option as it is height adjustable. Could be wrong though. I figure ill add winch and bull bar as funds allow. Maybe there will be aftermarket gear soon enough after they come out.
    Thanks for the info. I re-checked the detailed specs for the standard IG and there's no mention of a towbar across the range as standard. I sent a question on the NAS tow hitch a while back because of the 1 7/8" spec'd towball and I was assured in writing that the NAS tow hitch would come with a 50mm towball. I didn't realise it was height adjustable...that's very handy!
    I'm still wondering about side runners... whether to get them as factory fit or wait..it's a bit of a step-up with a 10+" ground clearance, esp. with my arthritic hip... and I'm not sure what inventory will be with the dealers at launch time...could take a while longer.
    I deliberately left off the winch and bullbar.... carrying another 100kg over the front wheels for rare use... I'm thinking the diffs and KO2 tyres should provide sufficient capability for where I'll want to venture...
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    Winch?

    Scant details on the winch provided, other than 5.5 ton rating and priced at $5430. Certainly seems well hidden, sorry, Integrated. I guess that means you do not need the bull bar ($1990) for mounting.
    There is also a 2nd option of a removable 3.5 ton winch ($4050) which needs the front ($620) and rear ($740) tow points as well as the switch pack ($1805). Not sure where you are supposed to store this when not in use?
    Bull bar, winch, Aux battery = $8480
    Removable, tow points, aux battery = $8275.
    My biggest quibble with the pricing is the winch, I suspect retro fitting our own will be the only affordable option.
    As we are waiting on the dual cab release, we will be in a position to know way more before we lay out some dollars.
    Rich.

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    Bull bar, winch, Aux battery = $8480
    Considering it cost me $4000 to fit an ARB Bull/Winch bar, 5T winch and a dual battery (with solar) to my D2a $8480 seems a bit extortive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    Considering it cost me $4000 to fit an ARB Bull/Winch bar, 5T winch and a dual battery (with solar) to my D2a $8480 seems a bit extortive.
    When? I know what you mean, but there has been a Covid tax on everything in the last couple of years. Everything is dearer and considerably so with vehicles and their accessories. I could sell my 2.5 year old car now for more than I bought it for despite piling on the miles. And, getting it as manufacturer fitted is likely better than aftermarket in terms of fitment and you get vehicle manufacturer's warranty on those things and, no questions over any issues say that a bullbar might cause with overheating etc (and of course you would hope that the designs have been well tested to avoid, something aftermarket bull bar makers and winch installers just can't do). Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    When? I know what you mean, but there has been a Covid tax on everything in the last couple of years. Everything is dearer and considerably so with vehicles and their accessories. I could sell my 2.5 year old car now for more than I bought it for despite piling on the miles. And, getting it as manufacturer fitted is likely better than aftermarket in terms of fitment and you get vehicle manufacturer's warranty on those things and, no questions over any issues say that a bullbar might cause with overheating etc (and of course you would hope that the designs have been well tested to avoid, something aftermarket bull bar makers and winch installers just can't do). Cheers
    Most factory fitted bullbars are usually crap, Including Toyota Landrover and others and I cannot recall any problems with warranty or insurance issues with aftermarket bars being fitted.
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    New to the Grenadier, and this thread. 110 owner with a L663 just ordered. Clearly i'm part of the target market.

    I find this car both compelling and odd, in equal measure. The styling (and marketing vibe) is a real conundrum

    - A Land Rover (no, it's not a Land Rover, It's an Ineos)
    - but that's a Defender? (No. It's better)
    - so it's a... copy? (no, just traditional looking)
    - but it looks like the Defender (we call it familiar)
    - so it'll be rattly and utilitarian? (no, totally modern and awesome)
    - so it'll be exclusive (no, egalitarian)
    - It's British? (Yes. well... Global)

    All this entirely intentional of course - the reactions that Ineos want me/us to have - and will establish the initial interest in the brand. The marketing pitch adds fuel - positioning the car alongside high achievers, British iconography, and undertones of the armed forces. LR must be fuming.

    My reaction? I'm interested, but a little sceptical. It feels awkward (and i'm British), or at least derivative. I wonder how it'll sit with other nationals. If it's a brand new concept, then make it so? But then it risks becoming another anonymous 4wd box. It's a difficult path to tread admittedly.

    Perhaps once the car/brand has been established for a few years we'll see this car develop it's own character, but until then expect inevitable and frequent "so, it's... a Land Rover?" questions whilst converts do the hard work on Ineos' behalf.

    Possible, however, to honour the values of our grandparents without wearing their clothes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    Most factory fitted bullbars are usually crap, Including Toyota Landrover and others and I cannot recall any problems with warranty or insurance issues with aftermarket bars being fitted.
    When was your work done? And the Ineos one looks a bit heavier duty to me than the standard Toyo, Mitsubishi etc etc factory stuff. And, you may not but I have seen warranty issues on overheating or high temps on a number of vehicles where the dealer and manufacturer says aftermarket bullbar is the issue (and usually). I agree that we have good bars available here for most brands cheaper than manufacturers but have you priced a good one fitted lately...not pleasant.

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