Reply With QuoteSpudfan I agree. The big question for me is whether the sum total of the parts come together well as one and then to ensure they are here for the long hall and how they support the vehicle. Once those are nailed down I would be keen. Cheers
Wizard
SupporterDefender owners have noted from time to time how Land Rover cut corners and used some cheap components. In answer to this Ineos have stated that they would use good quality components and give people a quality vehicle. People have said that they would pay more for a Defender if the components and reliability were better. How much Land Rover would have charged for a Defender with better quality components and better assembly in the factory is anyone's guess. Whether it would be on a par with the Ineos Grenadier price wise is questionable. Land Rover had the vehicle but just needed to up the quality in some areas where as Ineos had to start with a clean sheet and go from there. This entails substantial out lay in capital investment. Land Rover could have killed the Grenadier at it's inception if they had upped their game with the Defender but kept the costs of this improvement at a reasonable level.
Imagine the Defender coming with a galvanised chassis and bulkhead as standard. People would pay for that. Instead of being something Land Rover did not think suited their modern "image" it could have been a true icon for them. Fair enough the majority of people would say "That is a great vehicle. Gives you confidence to go anywhere but at the moment it is not for. I will buy a different Land Rover." The Defender was an advertising department's dream. Readily identifiable so it helped with the brand image. Good, strong, reliable vehicles. So if Ineos gives us the quality we wanted in the Defender it will come at a price. Whether people think it is worth paying for is up to them.
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SubscriberSpudfan I agree. The big question for me is whether the sum total of the parts come together well as one and then to ensure they are here for the long hall and how they support the vehicle. Once those are nailed down I would be keen. Cheers
Wizard
Just priced up a well specced Grenadier - $129,500 on road in Victoria
Lot of money for an unproven vehicle that could still require more money spent on it.
Makes my 76 look like a bargain.
Cheers
Chuck
MY 24 Grenadier Trialmaster
MY 03 D2a
Ex D1, D2, D2a, D3, D4, Prado, D4, D5, MY 23 Defender
73 series 3 109 Truck Cab Tray Body, 79 Series, 76 Series
Swaggie
And has a well proven reputation for reliability,fit and finish, not many others have.Although a sort of antiquated design,leaf springs,etc.Originally Posted by chuck
My son has had one for the last couple of years as well,his was a bargain at around $65K,from memory,and is worth something rediculous today.
It replaced his Puma.
Wizard
Recently moved on my 79 Series.
Would not fit in garage
Dog could not get in easily.
Big difference between 76 & 79
Feels & drives quicker.
Our Newfoundland who sits 950mm tall is comfortable & looks out the windows
Was a bit of mucking around selling one and buying the other but worth it.
Only thing left to do is upgrade the speakers.
Actually finding it really refreshing.
Cheers
Chuck
MY 24 Grenadier Trialmaster
MY 03 D2a
Ex D1, D2, D2a, D3, D4, Prado, D4, D5, MY 23 Defender
73 series 3 109 Truck Cab Tray Body, 79 Series, 76 Series
YarnMaster
Subscriber....I'll let you know in due course!
MY99 RR P38 HSE 4.6 (Thor) gone (to Tasmania)
2020 Subaru Impreza S ('SWMBO's Express' )
2023 Ineos Grenadier Trialmaster (diesel)
Swaggie
quote....Lot of money for an unproven vehicle that could still require more money spent on it.
many people here payed that sort of money for 663's when it was released "unproven"....
Swaggie
Huge difference,one vehicle produced by a company has been around for 70yrs,the other about 3,and has yet to sell any vehicles?
Wizard
SupporterThe latest news update features the Grenadier in Africa. Once in the grip of Land Rover but abandoned by Land Rover in recent years.
Grenadier Trails Namibia| Rugged 4X4 In the Wild | INEOS Grenadier
Moderator
It's certainly a place where you wouldn't/couldn't take one of those new-fangled Defenders:
NEW Land Rover Defender: Off-Road Review In Namibia | Carfection 4K - YouTube
Mahn England
DEFENDER 110 D300 SE '23 (the S M E G)
Ex DEFENDER 110 wagon '08 (the Kelvinator)
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members-rides/105691-one_iotas-110-inch-kelvinator.html
Ex 300Tdi Disco:
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