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Thread: Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

  1. 10th December 2023, 10:55 PM #1241
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post

    And that lovely Hot V config will be interesting to see what it cooks after a few kilometres are racked up.
    There was one in Wilcannia the other day with a caravan on, bonnet up.. Wondering how hot that vee was at the time..

    Fairly by the looks of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    At least Toyota provided oil, to the cars needing it, until the issue was sorted.
    And good to see the manufacturer has sorted the issue.

    In fact on the 300 series forum,i am yet to see a complaint about oil usage for 4 or 5 months,whether towing or not.There were very few complaints anyway,all early on.

    And some drag blocks of flats around all day every day,right on the vehicles max GCM,often upgraded.

    As for the Hot V,some are bashing away at that,we will have to see how they go,but at least they haven't had any major issues so far such as......crank failures

    Cadogan had a good bash at it about 12 months ago,and has since gone very quiet on the subject.As we all know,he will bash away at anything,mainly for self promotion,his pet hates being Land Rover and Toyota
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    Quote Originally Posted by shack View Post
    There was one in Wilcannia the other day with a caravan on, bonnet up.. Wondering how hot that vee was at the time..

    Fairly by the looks of it.
    What model Grenadier was it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 123rover50 View Post
    What model Grenadier was it?
    Only the 300 series has the "hot Vee".

    I don't the any engines in the Grenadier are a "Vee".
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    Are they not BMW powered?
    If you don't like trucks, stop buying stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    Are they not BMW powered?
    IIRC they use either the Beemer 3 litre straight six in petrol or diesel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    No historic version of a hot V engine has proven long term reliable.
    As i know F all about the history of hot Vs,i did a bit of research.
    Sure BMW had many issues,as they have had with other engines.
    Some others seem to have used them successfully.

    Anyway,the proof will be how the 300s are going in about 5 to 10yrs time.


    What Is A Hot V Turbo Engine Layout And What Benefits Does It Have? | News | CarThrottle

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    The Merc OM642 is of course a hot V, as used by the Australian defence forces in the G300 professional in its detuned form.

    Quick google seems to indicate its a reliable donk except when in lots of low load stop start driving.

    Maybe the G300 professional has the vent in the bonnet just above the turbo to improve reliability by allowing the heat to escape?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shack View Post
    There was one in Wilcannia the other day with a caravan on, bonnet up.. Wondering how hot that vee was at the time..

    Fairly by the looks of it.
    Was this an LC300 or a Grenadier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by simonmelb View Post
    The Merc OM642 is of course a hot V, as used by the Australian defence forces in the G300 professional in its detuned form.

    Quick google seems to indicate its a reliable donk except when in lots of low load stop start driving.

    Maybe the G300 professional has the vent in the bonnet just above the turbo to improve reliability by allowing the heat to escape?
    Apparently the Ford power stroke is also a hot V,been around for decades,no issues due to the hot V.
    First diesel with this design.

    Surely if Ford can do it,Toyota can do it better...
    Their engines(Toyota) have always been pretty bullet proof.
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