Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

**scarry** · 11th November 2025, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by one_iota

I did a quick calculation using the Reserve Bank's inflation calculator to determine what my now departed 2008 Defender cost in today's dollars.

It cost me $50000 new and I added stuff (as you do) like a bull bar lets say another $15000 so $65000. if I was to add rear locker add say another $5000. so a total cost to me of $70000 in 2008 dollars.

The Defender cost me close to $106.000 in today's money.

Makes the Grenadier and the L663 Defender look like better value considering what you get for your extra dollars.

I am sure the new one will depreciate a lot more than the old one.

**DoubleChevron** · 11th November 2025, 03:50 PM

Holly crap.... I figured "a thread about that french 4wd this could be interesting reading".... 'Cos who in there right mind would buy a crappy french car, let alone a 4wd made in france..... Wow ... 170pages of messages

They are either really good or really crap ..... But I don't have time to read 170 pages and find out

**Captain_Rightfoot** · 11th November 2025, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

Holly crap.... I figured "a thread about that french 4wd this could be interesting reading".... 'Cos who in there right mind would buy a crappy french car, let alone a 4wd made in france..... Wow ... 170pages of messages

They are either really good or really crap ..... But I don't have time to read 170 pages and find out

They are ok, and probably getting better if you've got the budget for a "premium niche brand". Who may have pretty limited support.

**grey_ghost** · 11th November 2025, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Tombie

A new Defender is literally a beefed up, now OTA updated Discovery 4 with some design cues to the old.

D4s are proving incredibly resilient (ok some 3.0l aren’t) but the body, suspension and basic electro/mechanical are holding together just fine.

I can remember when I purchased my Tomb Raider TD5 seeing multitudes of them in the workshop having niggles and problems rectified. Now nobody thinks twice about a few maintenance items and off they go.

My D4 as an example is about to roll 230k, its total maintenance bill would be sub $15k for its entire life.

Hi mate,

I have a new Defender. This week I clocked over 163,000km and have had zero issues. But the traditionalists don’t want to hear that.

Cheers,
GG

**Captain_Rightfoot** · 11th November 2025, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by grey_ghost

Hi mate,

I have a new Defender. This week I clocked over 163,000km and have had zero issues. But the traditionalists don’t want to hear that.

Cheers,
GG

That's great to hear, and I'm happy for you.

However quality is not about making one good car. It's about making all of them good. It's no point making 8 perfect ones and 2 raging disasters. In quality surveys around the world, land rover is perennially in the sin bin.

Personally the oldest the "Defender" can be is five years .. So still under warranty. Let's talk when it's ten, if it's still on the road.

Cross fingers for a good outcome for you!

For me... I don't drive my car around town. I only use it for remote touring. Where a failure to proceed could result at best being stuck somewhere at best, or at worst an expensive recovery or even a life threatening situation. Would I be game to take 80 computers and a whole bunch of sensors, plumbing and actualtors out to the bush when 10, or 15, or 20? The saying "are you feeling lucky, punk" is making an appearance in a corner of the brain.. From what we've seen of the predecessor.. the D3 and D4.. I've not seen anything to give me any confidence. Whenever I'm involved with one on a remote trip it ends badly.

My old defender .. it requires a lot of maintenance. But it's simple, and it's even possible to fix with basic tools and amateur mechanic skills.

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