Thread: Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Half the power probably explains its superiority.

Not only that. The series diesel engine was quite happy to pull strongly from a little above idle (maximum torque is at 1750, and its not a sharp peak) to 4,000rpm meaning that given the four fairly closely spaced gears and the transfer case that puts almost all low range gears below high range gears, you always have a "right" gear for any sandhill, and approaching the hill close to maximum revs, ease off as you go up, without having to change gears or spin the wheels in an effort to keep going without stalling - both of which are fatal on a sandhill.

The petrol Series 2 was quite good, but the diesel was a lot better because of the wider range of torque. For a mid fifties design, that engine was very high revving for a diesel, without losing the virtue of low end torque that was characteristic of diesels of that era. I think it was deliberately designed to make best use of the same gearing as the petrol engine, which only had a slightly higher maximum rpm (4250) but a much higher maximum torque speed (2500).

Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

Ineos is cutting 400 jobs mostly from Head Office as sales are down 23% from last year...Access Denied.

Thanks for posting. Here is a version of the article from an archive server for people that don't have a telegraph account.

I'm really struggling to process the following paragraph.

I'm not sure what the problem is in the UK but 233 cars so far in 2025. I don't know what to say.

Apparently the US is their biggest market by far, and they sold 8000 units in total in 2024. They were hoping for more this year, but it's unclear if they have been successful.

If they sell a few hundred in Australia each year.. hard to see how they can keep the doors open. They have sold 2000 grenadiers in Aus in total as of June 2025.

Will they even survive to do a model update? Maybe writing is on the wall already.

In the UK, data from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders show that Ineos’s sales for the first 10 months of 2025 have fallen from 302 to 233.

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