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    The Boeing 737 Max.

    Boeing already have 52 of the new generation 737 Max Aeroplanes under construction with huge orders to follow.

    the 737 is THE BEST , the most successful and has the highest safety record of any aeroplane ever built.

    the success of the faithful Douglas Dakotas pales into insignificance alongside the 737's track record.

    I had a link to the 737 Max but lost it. googeling the Boeing737 comes up with hours of reading.

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    maybe.... but would it be as much fun to fly ?

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    HA the trusty DC 3, average 3% per annum crashing, worse in 1958 with 24 DNF


    things have only gotten better

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    Quote Originally Posted by 85 county View Post
    HA the trusty DC 3, average 3% per annum crashing, worse in 1958 with 24 DNF


    things have only gotten better
    Hey, let's compare like with like!
    Fit a DC-3 (if you could) with all the modern electronic navigational aids, weather forecasting and turbines instead of radials and remove it from the Berlin airlift, OR

    Fit a 737 with radials and make it fly something like the Berlin airlift, without the modern forecasts and navaids,
    and THEN make your comparison.

    The 737's a good machine, but its safety record isn't all down to the aeroplane...

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    I'm not sure the 24 crashes during the Berlin Airlift are all aircraft problems. They were flying in/out with a large number of aircraft in a very constrained flight path with harassment from Soviet aircraft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    Boeing already have 52 of the new generation 737 Max Aeroplanes under construction with huge orders to follow.

    the 737 is THE BEST , the most successful and has the highest safety record of any aeroplane ever built.

    the success of the faithful Douglas Dakotas pales into insignificance alongside the 737's track record.

    I had a link to the 737 Max but lost it. googeling the Boeing737 comes up with hours of reading.
    G'Day Rambling.
    The thing that I think (worry!) about with this sort of stuff, is the electronic "complexity" of these aircraft. Brilliantly designed, but so much to go wrong??.....Yeah, I know, I'm a "Panic Merchant"!
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    ok guys my comments were, that the DC3 was not so reliable. the 24 aircraft that crashed in 1958 had nothing to do with the Berlin air lift.

    the numbers show that all the electronic gimmickry in new aircraft do make them better and safer, i do not think that this translates to cars though. but then these aircraft do not have a bunch of backyard DIYers trying to fix them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 85 county View Post
    ok guys my comments were, that the DC3 was not so reliable. the 24 aircraft that crashed in 1958 had nothing to do with the Berlin air lift.

    the numbers show that all the electronic gimmickry in new aircraft do make them better and safer, i do not think that this translates to cars though. but then these aircraft do not have a bunch of backyard DIYers trying to fix them.

    I don't know that the 737 is the best option from an operators point of view. I suspect the A320's containerised cargo/baggage would be much preferred for quicker turnarounds and ease of handling.


    The 737 sales are probably from buyers who already have large 737 fleets and therefore maintenance facilities and operational experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C00P View Post
    Hey, let's compare like with like!
    Fit a DC-3 (if you could) with all the modern electronic navigational aids, weather forecasting and turbines instead of radials and remove it from the Berlin airlift, OR



    Coop
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    no reason why the old Biscuit Bomber will not be the flying into 100 years of service, bloody remarkable.
    Would not want to fly in a 50 year old 737 let alone 100 year old.

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    Comparing a 1930s design to a 1960s design is, in many respects, a bit pointless. It is also a bit pointless to argue that any particular aircraft (or car for that matter) is "best" or "safest" or "most successful".

    For these terms to have any meaning, you have define them. And for example, how do you compare the safety of an aircraft that has been used in large numbers over many years, with a low accident rate (e.g. 737), with one that was used in small numbers over a relatively short period, but was phased out without ever losing a passenger (e.g. HP-42 or DH-90). You can't, in any meaningful way.

    And raw accident statistics are meaningless without considering the type of usage of the aircraft, including length of legs etc.

    What can be said, of course, is that the 737 is the best selling airliner, and certainly one of the better ones. But as has already been pointed out, by being one of the first twin engined jets, which was also, because its design was derived from the 707, easy to stretch, unlike its main competitors , it has the big advantage of incumbency - many airlines already operate them, and expansion or modernisation of a fleet is easiest by just getting more of the same (or similar).

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