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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Jars View Post
    I haven't been up that way in a long time. A lot of the places in the Hawkesbury have walls significantly higher than the river. I guess what I'm asking is how restrictive would the area where the plane pranged be for manoeuvring, in the case of, say - a go-around from low level?

    I've been into some pretty tight places that needed a split-rrrse turn to escape in the event of a go-around from low level (I'm not a seaplane pilot). In some cases, a 180 deg turn.
    If they took off to the north east (which is usual from what I observed) there is plenty of room on the river for maneuvering. If they went south west it gets very tight. Since they went down near Jerusalem Bay, it would appear they were headed north east.
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    JD, in a steep turn in a Beaver there is ample warning of stall and time enough for corrective action.

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    Yet the last multi fatal in a Beaver (in Canada) mentioned in this story was attributed to this cause. There is a good reason why low level steep turns are the subject of strong warnings to new pilots - a hundred years of fatal accidents, stall warning or not.
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    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

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    It looks like he went the wrong way up a dead end and tried to do a low level 90 degree turn resulting in a stall. The question is why? Was it a simple navigation error or he went that way not realising that more altitude would be required than could be achieved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geedublya View Post
    It looks like he went the wrong way up a dead end and tried to do a low level 90 degree turn resulting in a stall. The question is why? Was it a simple navigation error or he went that way not realising that more altitude would be required than could be achieved.
    That's it in a nutshell. I guess we'll never know.

    Causes of death in Syd seaplane revealed
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    Engine fumes responsible for fatal Sydney seaplane crash in Hawkesbury River, ATSB says - ABC News

    I think this explains why they went the wrong way. Navigation error due to confusion induced by CO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geedublya View Post
    Engine fumes responsible for fatal Sydney seaplane crash in Hawkesbury River, ATSB says - ABC News

    I think this explains why they went the wrong way. Navigation error due to confusion induced by CO.
    Warning on carbon monoxide poisoning

    Warning on carbon monoxide poisoning | Flight Safety Australia

    CASA has issued an Airworthiness Bulletin today on preventing carbon monoxide poisoning in piston-engine aircraft.
    This follows indications that the pilot of a float plane that crashed near Sydney in late 2017 may have been affected by carbon monoxide poisoning.



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    Does it take 2 years for a toxicology report to be done and presented ?

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    Reading the report, toxicology tests were only requested after all the other non-productive leads had been followed up.

    These investigations are done very carefully and methodically, with procedures learned over the last century or so.
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