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    As I said I don't know much about heavies, aren't there at least 3 AH's or AI's or whatever they are called these days? They operate independently? I asked earlier, do heavies give any feedback control wise with extremes of speed?

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    Lion Air

    737 has 2 primary ADI’s (Attitude Director Indicator) and one ISFD (standby). The ADI’s form part of the Primary Flight Displays (PFD).

    MAX PFD


    IFSD

    There is not really much feedback (except for louder noise if you’re going faster. Some of the flight controls have artificial feel, but are all powered.

    The 737 has inputs to move the stab trim in various flight regimes independently of the flight crew. The MAX has additional system called MCAS, which is believed to have driven the stab to full nose down as a result of faulty data from the alpha vane.

    There is a procedure for runaway stabiliser (which this would have looked like). Whether they did that procedure is unknown.

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    Sounds like they were in strife then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Jars View Post
    737 has 2 primary ADI’s (Attitude Director Indicator) and one ISFD (standby). The ADI’s form part of the Primary Flight Displays (PFD).

    MAX PFD


    IFSD

    There is not really much feedback (except for louder noise if you’re going faster. Some of the flight controls have artificial feel, but are all powered.

    The 737 has inputs to move the stab trim in various flight regimes independently of the flight crew. The MAX has additional system called MCAS, which is believed to have driven the stab to full nose down as a result of faulty data from the alpha vane.

    There is a procedure for runaway stabiliser (which this would have looked like). Whether they did that procedure is unknown.
    FSX?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRJim View Post
    FSX?
    What is FSX?

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    Microsoft Flightsim?

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    That's the one! Those pics look straight out of the simulator, too many days spent in front of a screen lol

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    The photos are out of a B737 technical reference app which I use for work. The MAX has only recently been added as a new variant, so the quality is a bit less than their usual standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Jars View Post
    The photos are out of a B737 technical reference app which I use for work. The MAX has only recently been added as a new variant, so the quality is a bit less than their usual standard.
    Looks like they bought the graphics from Microsoft, I'm pretty sure it still is the simulator they train pilots on.
    I had exactly the same graphics on my tablet I used for flight controls on FSX way back.
    What do you use the app for? Flight briefing, mind refreshing, other?

    Cheers Jim

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    It’s an interactive program on the aircraft systems which I (and thousands of B737 pilots) use to supplement the Boeing Vol 2 (and other) manuals into one simple information guide. Essentially it brings the information from various parts of the manuals together in one place. It was created by a pilot with many years experience (and extensive knowledge) on type.

    Essentially, you tap on the item and it will bring up details and schematics of the related system, which makes it a lot easier to understand.

    It’s also great to focus on particular systems in preparations for the dreaded recurrent sim check. An example follows. In the app, you just tap on any light or switch to get a full rundown of the item. Beats going from book to book to book Lion Air


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