Airshow 2019 - Avalon

**Homestar** · 6th March 2019, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner

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Nice! I got a great personal guided tour of the KC-135 that landed at 13.46 including lying down in the tail section with the refuelling Master for a quick ‘how to’ on operating the boom. 👍

Great to see footage of the both - amazing old birds. The one shown landing first was delivered in 1957 - one of the first and still going strong. 👍. It was older than the B-52 that was there - that was delivered in 1960 and are still believed to have another 20 plus years left in the Airframes. It was also still waiting on its new glass cockpit that is being rolled out through the fleet - still all old school.

**Homestar** · 6th March 2019, 07:16 PM

There was also a bit of trouble during the show for one of the US C-17’s. It’s still parked out the back waiting on parts.

**weeds** · 6th March 2019, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Homestar

There was also a bit of trouble during the show for one of the US C-17’s. It’s still parked out the back waiting on parts.

Amazing footage.......what cannot take off with three good engines??

**4bee** · 6th March 2019, 08:10 PM

Gavin, thanks a huge bunch for presenting all these images which must have been a formidable undertaking. I for one really appreciated your effort.

**Hugh Jars** · 7th March 2019, 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by weeds

Amazing footage.......what cannot take off with three good engines??

Depends on the speed at which the bird strike occurred.
Below V1 is usually a decision to reject the takeoff, as these guys did.

**weeds** · 7th March 2019, 05:08 AM

Originally Posted by Hugh Jars

Depends on the speed at which the bird strike occurred.
Below V1 is usually a decision to reject the takeoff, as these guys did.

Oh I should have put a tongue in cheek emoji....

Yes I assume if there is an option to pull out of the take off that’s what they would do.....

**4bee** · 7th March 2019, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Hugh Jars

Depends on the speed at which the bird strike occurred.
Below V1 is usually a decision to reject the takeoff, as these guys did.

Does current Flight Training incorporate this sort of emergency event &/or can it be done in a Simulator?

Or is it a case of "Get out there lads & hope to f you don't need it?"

Certainly requires split decision making & action.

[Dips lid]

**Pickles2** · 7th March 2019, 07:36 AM

Thanks to Gav & everyone for posting all the pics & videos etc,...looked like a FANTASTIC event,....good for Vic, good for Aussie,...ALL GOOD.
Pickles.

**Hugh Jars** · 7th March 2019, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by 4bee

Does current Flight Training incorporate this sort of emergency event &/or can it be done in a Simulator?

Or is it a case of "Get out there lads & hope to f you don't need it?"

Certainly requires split decision making & action.

[Dips lid]

The last time I did a 'practice' rejected takeoff (or a V1 cut) in the aircraft was in 1996. Since then, it's all been carried out in simulators during the cyclic training program. That's far safer, and can be repeated over and over (if needed), and with no wear and tear on an aeroplane

Most of us have done several real RTO's during our careers. My last one was about a year ago in Darwin. It was "low" speed (below 80kt).

**4bee** · 7th March 2019, 06:37 PM

Thanks HJ, I guessed that would be the case. Would save on tyres & brakes as well, I reckon?

Is it a "**** the pants" experience when it actually happens?

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