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    It would be deeply politically controversial if Boeing moved production to China. Imagine the reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    It would be deeply politically controversial if Boeing moved production to China. Imagine the reaction.
    Boeing has had a factory in China for ' finishing ' 737's since 2018, or there abouts .


    Boeing delivers first 737 from Chinese completion site - CNN
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    I believe the MAX will fly again. We are getting regular updates from Boeing on its progress.
    Unless the aircraft designation on the booking engine relates somehow to a MAX (unlikely), it will be difficult for the average punter to tell.
    Apart from the engine placement there is very little visible difference.
    Personally I feel reasonably confident that Boeing will get this right. They have no choice. And I would be comfortable to fly the aeroplane once it’s gains certification.

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    Boeing 737 Max: new 'troubling communications' sent to regulators

    Boeing 737 Max: new 'troubling communications' sent to regulators | Business | The Guardian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Jars View Post
    I believe the MAX will fly again. We are getting regular updates from Boeing on its progress.
    Unless the aircraft designation on the booking engine relates somehow to a MAX (unlikely), it will be difficult for the average punter to tell.
    Apart from the engine placement there is very little visible difference.
    Personally I feel reasonably confident that Boeing will get this right. They have no choice. And I would be comfortable to fly the aeroplane once it’s gains certification.
    One of the astronauts scheduled to fly on the first shuttle after the Challenger disaster is reported to have said that he felt quite confident about his safety.

    He said that everything would have been checked and double checked even more thoroughly than usual because NASA could not afford another disaster.

    Maybe the same principle will apply to the 737 MAX. Maybe it will be tested and scrutinised even more thoroughly than usual before it takes to the skies again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraman View Post
    "After all, do YOU know what aircraft you fly on?"

    Indeed I do, each and every time - and I fly at least once a week!

    There are some airlines and aircraft that I will not set foot on.
    Fair enough. I fly so rarely that i take what the airline sends. I wouldn't know a MAX from an NG to look at, and i would suggest that most casual fliers would be the same. As for airlines, well I flew Tiger once, and that will remain at once. Love Thai, ,don't really like Qantas, Emirates seem ok. That's about the limit of my experience unless you include TAA and Ansett.
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    The MAX has larger engines set more forward on the wing than the NG, which it was to replace. This moved the CG forward, and upset the trim. Hence the new computer trickery , that's how I read it. A former Boeing manager has testified that a major Boeing factory in the US was a factory in chaos. When he reported to his boss that the military would have shut down a factory for the number of safety concerns at Boeing, he was told the military is not a profit making concern. He is calling for a major investigation into procedures at that Boeing factory. Boeing workers were under immense pressure to reach deadlines, short cuts were taken.

    Boeing ex-manager warned of a 'factory in chaos'
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Yes, it appears cost-cutting managers overruled the engineers.

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    Wasn't it one of the pilots on here that suggested in the past upper management were promoted internally from engineers, now they are MBA's brought in from outside?

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    Yes - combined with moving headquarters from Seattle to Chicago, outsourcing a lot of engineering, putting MBAs in charge. One result was no long term career path for engineers in the company, with obvious results in retention of good engineers.

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