Boeing CEO steps down, 737 may never fly again

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Originally Posted by ozscott

It's a shame the A380.has ceased production.

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I was working in and around Emirates for the first couple of years they brought the 380 into service. The quality issues with those aircraft were every bit as bad as those being bandied about in the reports of the Dreamliner. Sure, the wings didn't fall off, but swarf in the switch boards, potable water leaks into the electrical systems (one so big it "rained" on the lower deck). Some big ones, lots of little ones. They were kept pretty quiet.

Not saying Boeing isn't bad, but some of the Airbus issues were pretty severe also.

Bugger. In some ways I would rather not know, having flown the A380 a few times.

The 767 seems like a reliable long hauler...But who knows under the skin?

Cheers

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Originally Posted by ozscott

Bugger. In some ways I would rather not know, having flown the A380 a few times.

The 767 seems like a reliable long hauler...But who knows under the skin?

Cheers

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I stick to airlines who tend to maintain their aircraft and train their crew. If you read the list of near misses, they're almost entirely due to the boys up the front with the big hats being able to aviate, navigate and communicate with a damaged aircraft underneath them.

There is zero substitute for experience when it turns to soup. None.

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Originally Posted by BradC

I stick to airlines who tend to maintain their aircraft and train their crew. If you read the list of near misses, they're almost entirely due to the boys up the front with the big hats being able to aviate, navigate and communicate with a damaged aircraft underneath them.

There is zero substitute for experience when it turns to soup. None.

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That's how I have always seen it. I always like seeing grey hair in the hot seats. Qantas still have the best overall balance of best pilots and maintenance. Emirates are impressive also for newest fleet and still plenty of grey foxes although they could not get enough captains to meet the number of aircraft they were purchasing and so they dropped their min flight hour requirement down considerably so I read. Pitty about that.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by ozscott

Qantas still have the best overall balance of best pilots and maintenance.

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Sorry Scott, I have to disagree. Having flown (worked) in both Qantas and Virgin Australia operations (over 10 years in each), I have to say QF is no better or worse, flight standards-wise.

Virgin hired a huge number of highly experienced Ansett (and other reputable airlines') pilots over the years, and this knowledge has been (and continues to be) passed down to the next generation of VA crew.

Both airlines achieve equal training outcomes, but achieve it in different ways.

John R.

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I stick to airlines who tend to maintain their aircraft and train their crew.

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........and why wouldn't they? They have probably Billions at stake not to mention getting a bad reputation, but I take your point.

There are a bunch of foreign airlines that fly into Australia that I would never consider flying with.

But some people will always take the cheaper fare without a second thought.

Caveat emptor.

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Originally Posted by Hugh Jars

Sorry Scott, I have to disagree. Having flown (worked) in both Qantas and Virgin Australia operations (over 10 years in each), I have to say QF is no better or worse, flight standards-wise.

Virgin hired a huge number of highly experienced Ansett (and other reputable airlines') pilots over the years, and this knowledge has been (and continues to be) passed down to the next generation of VA crew.

Both airlines achieve equal training outcomes, but achieve it in different ways.

John R.

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Hi John I didn't have Virgin in mind. Cheers

Ps. I did fly a Brasilia via Virgin from Cairns a while ago and both guys on the cockpit were very young. Good to know though that there is a fair bit of grey hair in VA.

I see Airbus are in the news big time with a "couple[bigwhistle]" of shonky corruption deals worth Billions.



Airbus resolves global bribery scandal for record $4B | Article | Compliance Week


I wonder whether the Wright Bros. ever had these problems?:rolleyes:

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I see Airbus are in the news big time with a "couple[bigwhistle]" of shonky corruption deals worth Billions.



Airbus resolves global bribery scandal for record $4B | Article | Compliance Week


I wonder whether the Wright Bros. ever had these problems?:rolleyes:

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Wright brothers seem to have spent most of their effort in the early days suing all and sundry for patent infringement. The major result of this was that when the US entered WW1 in 1917, their military had perforce to equip with British and French aircraft, albeit mostly made under licence in the US.