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    Airbus crashes in Pakistan " we have lost engines"

    Couldn't lower their undercarriage, went around, lost both engines." According to Aviation officials. "


    Few survivors found after Pakistan airbus crashes into homes
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    Gear looks down to me.... [EDIT] the video is from the 2nd landing attempt.

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    Sounds pretty clearcut - except for the "minor" question of how did an experienced airline crew manage to actually touch down with gear not extended? Other question of course is why did it not extend?
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    Sympathies to the souls lost, and to their loved ones.
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    So it appears the aircraft was not stable with gear down on the first approach (1000' agl callout "stable" or "not stable"). I don't know about the A320's EGPWS, but I would have expected an aural "too low, gear" callout on the first approach, which would have been an immediate trigger for a go-around. I don't know if the A320 has the capability to override this callout.

    Additionally, if a landing can't be made within the touchdown criteria, the pilot not flying should have called "long landing". Once again, a trigger for an immediate go-around.
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    All of which would seem to raise some questions about PIA training?
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