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    Quote Originally Posted by 3toes View Post
    Not sure I want my A380 pilot showing off to the stewardess
    I don't think you'll ever need to worry about the A180 (A380) again.

    Google 'jet upset recovery' and all will be answered. Aerobatics is a precursor. This is a big-ticket item in airline recurrent simulator training nowadays, in light of several high profile crashes recently that may have been avoided had the technique been used

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    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    My CFI at the time owned a 'Gentleman's Biplane' - and newly minted pilots were taken up to experience all the naughty things LSA aircraft never-ever do.

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    The flight school where I leared did all their ab initio training in Victas - which were approved for aerobatics, and most of the instructors were happy to demonstrate this to new students whether they asked or not. And spin recovery was part of the curriculum, as I mentioned above.
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    You could spin a Piper Tomahawk and I did that as part of my basic PPL. Later I did a tail dragger and constant speed endorsement so I could do a aerobatics endorsement in a Super Decathalon. Was all good fun but did show up the need to fully secure things before flying upside down - including shirt pockets. Rolls and loops were all ok being positive G but when I was being taught how to fly inverted, all the 50c coins fell out of my shirt pocket landing on the Perspex roof - instructor had to take over while I tried to recover the coins - had to then land to collect those coins that I could not get back.

    We did not do any outside loops and I did see a Super Decathalon on Youtube doing one and I am glad we did not do it - a bit scary.

    Oh the Super Decathalon was written off after I flew in it in a high speed ground loop and when driving to my Mum's place in Newcastle, the 182 I used to fly in for a lot of my cross country works was sitting upside down on the traffic island on the Pacific Highway next to Belmont air strip - not sure if it landed short coming in from the east or whether it was an over run when landing from the west.

    In my flying as aircrew or privately, the only thing that ever happened was a cabin depressurisation but lots of things seemed to happen to aircraft after I had been in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
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    Oh the Super Decathalon was written off after I flew in it in a high speed ground loop and when driving to my Mum's place in Newcastle, the 182 I used to fly in for a lot of my cross country works was sitting upside down on the traffic island on the Pacific Highway next to Belmont air strip - not sure if it landed short coming in from the east or whether it was an over run when landing from the west.

    In my flying as aircrew or privately, the only thing that ever happened was a cabin depressurisation but lots of things seemed to happen to aircraft after I had been in them.

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    I have not flown a Super Decathalon, but the Decathalon I flew had the tamest ground handling of any taildragger I have flown. The nastiest was the C180 I owned, but even it was not too bad once you got used to it.

    Only real problems I have had flying were when I had to make a precautionary landing at a a strip in PNG that was not on the map, after running out of VMC, and when I made a forced landing at Wagga when the AA-5 I was flying dropped a valve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    The flight school where I leared did all their ab initio training in Victas - which were approved for aerobatics, and most of the instructors were happy to demonstrate this to new students whether they asked or not. And spin recovery was part of the curriculum, as I mentioned above.
    The aero club at Camden had a 152 Aerobat when I was there about 1990.
    About 1/2hr in, Andrew my instructor would say "well you've nailed that, want to do some aerobatics?" Impromptu flight ended in spin
    Except it took forever to get enough altitude to do anything...Impromptu flight ended in spinImpromptu flight ended in spin

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    A bit like the time I flew up here from Melbourne for a weekend - the only plane I could get was a 150. Was OK going up, but the southerly was still blowing when I was coming back. I had to land twice for fuel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    A bit like the time I flew up here from Melbourne for a weekend - the only plane I could get was a 150. Was OK going up, but the southerly was still blowing when I was coming back. I had to land twice for fuel!
    The one aeroplane where you can really see the difference between your IAS and ground speed.
    Are we actually moving? Impromptu flight ended in spin

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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    You could spin a Piper Tomahawk and I did that as part of my basic PPL...

    Garry
    Did you ever look at the tail as you entered the stall/spin, Garry? I spent quite a few hours teaching ab-initio in the Traumahawk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Jars View Post
    Did you ever look at the tail as you entered the stall/spin, Garry?
    No I was too scared - always had a scary feeling in the Tomahawk with that T tail - same in the Beech Skipper but didn't spin it. Though to be fair the Tomahawk was easy to fly and I had no issues except the seats kept sliding back on take off and the doors would open by them selves.
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    Let me guess..... with all that surface area on top of the tail... it's all going to shake rattle & roll ?

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