both our new helo carriers come with ski jumps and we have options for the vstol version of the f35. With the invincable it was us who said the brits could keep it as the then govt said we did not need carriers because they are offensive not defensive and the yanks did other us f22s but we couldnt afford them, with the last upgrade to the f111 they are capable of dropping or launching all current us missles including cruise missles when we bought the f111 the indonesions complained to canberra they also protested the last upgrade but so far i have not heard them complain about us getting the f35 does that tell us somthing. I wonder with the new russian fighter looking so much like the lightning where did the stealth tech come from :angel:

