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    New member to my land rover family

    Hi everyone, against a lot of people's advice, I have bought a 6th month 2003 freelander ES v6 auto. It's black on black. Was cheap. Has a few problems but hopefully easily fixed. I have other, real, land rovers, including a very rare Australian made series e stage one Isuzu tray back Ute. Goes well, and a series2a 109, had an FFR Perentie and a series 3 109 with a Holden 186 and Nissan 5 speed box. Both the latter have been sold and are greatly missed. The series three was a beast that was most reliable and would go anywhere and easily break the speed limit. Anyway on to the freebie. It's got 350K on the clock. Was used almost exclusively for long trips to eastern states and back to visit family and cart the kids to school etc. That's what I was told anyway. It needs tyres and a few things fixing. Both rear doors won't open from outside, only the left rear door opens from inside. Both rear elect windows don't work. Was told dirty switch contacts but that was a lie. The switches weren't even plugged in on the doors. I managed to get the right rear door to open from the inside by flipping the Child lock switch. Found Both rear outer handles broken. Found also that I could swap the rear handles over and re use them. So i did. Now have opening doors all round. Tailgate window was sitting in the bottom of the tailgate. Reg is broken. So I've held the glass up temporarily with some wood. Both rear door windows are held up with wood also. Dirty switch contacts indeed. Don't like ppl that lie. Will look into getting them repaired. Kits are available online. So are rear tailgate regs. My tailgate reg motor works so will buy a reg without motor. Engine runs really smoothly but desperately needs an oil change. Will have to eyeball the timing belts too coz I think maintenance may not have been a priority. Hoping to not have to spend too much on it. Clear coat is peeling in spots. Roof Lining is held up with staples. Low priority. Leather seats are hardened. Will see what can be done about it. Cheers.

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    The first and most important thing to do before you get this on the road is to check the VCU on the drive shaft (and check it each service). They fail and when they fail they can take out the Intermediate Reduction Drive unit (IRD) and possibly the rear diff.

    There are lots of little tricks with these vehicles like how to set up the rear window and emergency access so get a user manual if you do not have one.

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    So today I had a good look at the rear doors. There are no regulators fitted at all to both rear doors. Unbelievable. There goes getting a repair kit. So i went to the Elizabeth U pull it, coz I know there's a freebie1 there. Had a look. Manual windows in the rear. Bugger. Took out the roof lining tho. It's fantastic. Just has broken basket thingys. I'm not that fussed about them. Will try fit it shortly. Don't know what I'm gonna do about these rear reggys yet. At least the front ones are working good. Front drivers door lock barrel is a bit loose. Think it's cracked where the bolt holds the barrel and handle to the door. Shouldn't cost too much I hope. The one at the yard was grey, and cracked too. Mine are black. Still got to get to the oil change. Weather was crap today and had other stuff to do. Had to go out and check on my best mate today. All good and quiet. Ppl been visiting, seen their foot prints. Cheers

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    Hi Mate,

    Have you thought about TR Spares in SA for the rear door regulators? I sourced an engine from them for my FL1....

    Cheers,
    GG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grey_ghost View Post
    Hi Mate,

    Have you thought about TR Spares in SA for the rear door regulators? I sourced an engine from them for my FL1....

    Cheers,
    GG.
    Yes I have, GG, but they want better than new prices for them. I can buy new of eBay for 120 a pair. I'm going to check the cam belt condition b4 I do anything else. The cam belt kit for V6 is around 450. You HAVE to use the special locking tools to fit them. The rear inlet cam has no pin or keys at to locate the sprocket. That's why you have to use the correct tooling. It's a bugger coz the V6has 3 timing belts. If the belts need doing it may be a deal breaker coz the expense of the parts and about 5/6 hours to do the job.

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    Ok update. Added engine flush and ran engine for about 20 mins. Engine got quieter as the flush started doing it's job. Drained and removed oil filter. Fitted new oil filter and added correct oil. Started engine. Runs really quiet now. Nothing like fresh semi synthetic oil and filter. I removed the engine cover and then proceeded to remove one of the rear timing belt covers. The belt was in great condition. Someone has spent the money and it has near new genuine rover timing belts fitted. Cool. I cleaned out the throttle body while the intake hose was off. Even idles smoother now. So, I now will spend some money on it. Bought and fitted new tyres. Checked under the freebie on the hoist. Super clean. Can still see the yellow paint marks on the bolts and other things from quality control check. NO OIL LEAKS. Gotta be a first, going on the mileage, at 350915klms. Took it for a little drive, so smooth. Trans shifts perfectly. I doubt this has even been off road. So I've ordered new rear door regulators, and a tailgate reg without motor, coz my motor still works. Can't wait for them to get here. Also found the drivers door check link is broken. Will get the one of the wreck at Elizabeth. Will also have to get the regulator bolts and nuts too. Got to try soften up the leather on the front seats too. Don't know how to do this. I'll find out. Can't wait to get this registered so I can drive it. Cheers

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    Pull up the rear carpet in the boot and check for rust. Mine leaks like a siv when it rains. I have the bum parked under cover. I haven’t been able to work out where tge rain is getting in. I have even sat in the boot while somebody hosed the car down from the outside.

    I drilled a hole in the floor - the recessed section that the tools are stored in, to let water out.

    I am driving mine today actually.

    It’s a nice drive.

    Welcome to the club!
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    93 Discovery 1 200 Tdi - Club Rego
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    Quote Originally Posted by grey_ghost View Post
    Pull up the rear carpet in the boot and check for rust. Mine leaks like a siv when it rains. I have the bum parked under cover. I haven’t been able to work out where tge rain is getting in. I have even sat in the boot while somebody hosed the car down from the outside.

    I drilled a hole in the floor - the recessed section that the tools are stored in, to let water out.
    In the nearly 10 years I had my FL1 I never solved this mystery. Like you I sat in the back and looked for the leaks but did not resolve anything - what was obvious though is if you park up hill it did not leak but downhill it did.

    My guess is that the water runs past the seal in the door that the window runs up down on and water gets in there and fills a pocket inside the door than over flows to the inside under the carpets and into the underfloor boot. One of the mysteries of life - I researched it at the time and got various answers that did not work - what was obvious was that every one with a FL1 that was parked outside had the problem.

    Yes they are a great car to drive and quite capable offroad, certainly more so than my D1 V8 (if kept in high range) - a shame that the cooling system in the 1.8 and dare I say the V6 wrecked the reputation of these capable and likeable vehicles.

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    I have drilled a couple of holes in the "toolbox" like a flow through system. I will make sure the rear door is the same. Apparently there is an adjustment bolt for the tailgate window for when it goes all the way up so it seals properly. I'll investigate this when my rear reg gets here. My friend Robert, (vice pres of the LRREGSA) has found this in his hippo, and supposedly fixed the leaking problem. I've just removed his tail shaft and his freebie is 2wd. Was quoted over 8K to fix the VCU, Rear diff and IRD. He has a TD4. Rear diff has bearing noise and according to Sovereign motors, his VCU is seized, causing damage to the IRD. I'm not sure about the IRD, but the VCU is stuffed as is the rear diff. Next I'll probably take his rear diff out and just leave the outer CV joints in, to hold the bearings together till he decides what he wants to do. I'm looking forwards to actually driving my Hippo, after I've fixed the fast glass. Cheers.

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    Today a surprising parcel arrival. Not due till Monday 19th. Got the two rear window reggies, and the motorless tailgate reg. I fitted the two rear door regulators. They are working great. All the switches work including the child switch. I've refitted the door trims now. So, with the exception of the tailgate reg, all windows work now. Something of concern was, the header tank has several cracks in it. Wrecker wanted $35 for a dodgy looking second handey. New is $43 including postage, locally, with a new rad cap. No brainer. Ordered it today. Hope it gets here b4 Friday but not holding my breath. I think this rear tailgate reg is gonna try my patience somehow. I hope not. Just want it working like it should. Will try to get on to it tomorrow. Cheers.

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