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    Quote Originally Posted by Phideaux View Post
    Endorsing this; I purchased my base-model TD4 in 2011 and wife and I couldn't be happier with it. 150,000km and counting. Only problems have been with electric window-winders, which have some sort of eccentric cancel/reset system. They still work.

    Get your checked top-to-bottom by a mechanic who's familiar with them. Some routine items do wear out 'on schedule'.

    If yours is a 2014, it's probably a 9-speed gearbox - which means it has a surprisingly steep climbing angle and at the other end, a 9th gear you'll only ever use over 110kph. Off-road tip: what gets you stuck is clearance. 210mm as I recall - all three times I've had 'Bruce' stuck have been belly-flops.
    On-road tip: Learn to love your cruise-control. I call it 'cop-control'. A Freelander2 with good tyres will creep up to 140kph with no real sense of speed. Ditto suburban running - I find it's so quiet you can easily be doing 80kph in 60-zones, etc.

    If you don't have a towbar fitted and are in need of one, get the ARB one. It's half the price of the JLR one, and more than better; JLR has a unique 40mm box; ARB has the industry-standard 50mm box (interchangeable parts).

    I'm willing to correspond via PM if you want to chat.
    Phideaux (Canberra)
    You might be surprised to know JLR kept the same PSA motor and Japanese Aisin trans on the FL2 to the end and even carried over the same/similar combo to the Evoque and Disco Sport. It was a very good reliable combo. After a few years JLR changed over to the 9 speed ZF and Ingenium generation motors.
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    6 speed

    Cheers guys for the info
    Was beginning to think no one owned these in Aus 😂
    Have to find a decent LR mechanic in northern suburbs of Perth
    Have heard iffy reports of some nearby
    Has a Hayman Reece TBar fitted steady and guy gave me the wiring harness from LR to fit if I want. He never did

    Thx again
    Pejo

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    That wiring harness is worth having.

    Hayman Reece - good towbars.

    The main thing with a genuine JLR wiring harness is that, properly fitted, it cuts out the reversing warning inside the cabin.
    My cheaper set-up has the car convinced I'm backing into something. I don't do enough towing to make it worthwhile fussing over.

    Since it's no use to him, I'd go get it.

    Your FL2 will pull 2 tonnes - the 420 NM of torque does well, (almost effortless) but it would wear the car out quicker if you put a 2-tonne van behind it for Round Australia.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pejo View Post
    Cheers guys for the info
    Was beginning to think no one owned these in Aus 😂
    Have to find a decent LR mechanic in northern suburbs of Perth
    Have heard iffy reports of some nearby
    Has a Hayman Reece TBar fitted steady and guy gave me the wiring harness from LR to fit if I want. He never did

    Thx again
    Pejo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phideaux View Post
    Hayman Reece - good towbars.

    The main thing with a genuine JLR wiring harness is that, properly fitted, it cuts out the reversing warning inside the cabin.
    My cheaper set-up has the car convinced I'm backing into something. I don't do enough towing to make it worthwhile fussing over.

    Since it's no use to him, I'd go get it.

    Your FL2 will pull 2 tonnes - the 420 NM of torque does well, (almost effortless) but it would wear the car out quicker if you put a 2-tonne van behind it for Round Australia.
    I was talking to a DS owner at a caravan park a few days ago. His early sport which also had same PSA/Aisin combo, and looked very happy to tow his single axle van with DS.

    Also have a look at YouTube for FL2 Offroad or Simpson desert crossings. They are very capable of road considering they’re not dual range, but being light with TR gives them an advantage.
    L322 tdv8 poverty pack - wow
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 49-107 (probably selling) turbo, p/steer, RFSV front axle/trutrack, HF, gullwing windows, double jerrys etc.
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 48-699 another project
    Track Trailer ARN 200-117
    REMLR # 137

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    JLR Quality

    Quote Originally Posted by Pejo View Post
    Hi al we've just and bought a 2nd hand Freelander 2014

    Bit nervous with all then naysayers on LR in general

    Impressed by first look and looking forward to trying it out

    Any advise and ideas greatly appreciated

    Peter
    In something like 2006 the J D Powers report put Land Rover 2nd last (worst) - only thing worse was Jeep. (Out of about 50 manufacturers)
    By 2011, Land Rover was sixth or so on the customer satisfaction index, Jeep remained ... last.
    Recent drops in Quality Assurance - apparently particularly with the new Defender - will have taken LR down the ratings, but as others have said, the FL2 is "their best". The FL2 was wildly popular in Europe and Russia, still is.

    The Evoque is just an FL2 with bling and tiny windows
    Evoque: to be seen in
    Freelander2: to see out of! (My granddaughters like it)

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    Cheers again

    Quote Originally Posted by Phideaux View Post
    Hayman Reece - good towbars.

    The main thing with a genuine JLR wiring harness is that, properly fitted, it cuts out the reversing warning inside the cabin.
    My cheaper set-up has the car convinced I'm backing into something. I don't do enough towing to make it worthwhile fussing over.

    Since it's no use to him, I'd go get it.

    Your FL2 will pull 2 tonnes - the 420 NM of torque does well, (almost effortless) but it would wear the car out quicker if you put a 2-tonne van behind it for Round Australia.
    We have a small single axle trailer 720 Tare 990 Agr My car was Kia Optima which Ive been very happy with but not suitable for towing and exploring. Was impressed with the specs of the FL2 being very close to the Pajero's and didnt need a big car (couldnt afford one with Covid Tax ATM )Other so called soft roaders didnt come close to being able to offroad aswell I think!

    Will find out soon hopefully

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    I've also recently purchased a Freelander 2 2013 TD4 in Perth!! glad to see another one around this side of the globe. Have just bought some 17" OE rims to put on and just need to figure out what tires I want to throw on them.

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    Those rims...

    Quote Originally Posted by ooij01 View Post
    I've also recently purchased a Freelander 2 2013 TD4 in Perth!! glad to see another one around this side of the globe. Have just bought some 17" OE rims to put on and just need to figure out what tires I want to throw on them.
    I've wanted 17" rims ever since I put the first set of tyres on my TD4.
    Can you PM me where you got them and at what price?

    With 17"s your choice goes from 'about 4' to lots-n-lots. Including some serious off-roading tyres, but in Sand-Groper country, you'll probably want the best sand tyres that are decent on-road.

    I swear by Pirelli Scorpion Zero (the off-road ones, not the road tyres, which are cheaper and you can wind up with by mistake). Their wear is lousy - say 30,000km, less for hard driving - but the grip in wet clay, wet bitumen, and dry bitumen - is amazing (comparatively). I figure I've only got to avoid one nose-tail to break even or better. They're okay for sand, but it's the usual problem for FL2s - when the sand is really dry, clearance becomes the issue - the car belly-flops and is stuck like a turtle on a rock. Doesn't matter what tyres, pressure, etc...

    Incidentally, it's worth reading tyre tests. One of the off-road magazines did a good one a few years back.
    And one of the on-road magazines found a difference between worst/best braking distance of over 5 metres, same car, same driver, panic stop from 100kph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohica View Post
    Workshop manual could help

    Resources
    Unfortunately link for FL2 didnt work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pejo View Post
    Unfortunately link for FL2 didnt work
    I’ll fix it when I get home.
    I wonder why?
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