Freelander 2 Off Road Recovery Point

In Australia GCM is Gross Combination Mass, the maximum the total of the vehicle and trailer may weigh. GTM is Gross Trailer Mass, the weight of the trailer minus the towball mass (TBM). From distant memory in Europe and/or UK GTM is Gross Train Mass, equivalent to GCM.

GCM is not necessarily the GVM plus the maximum permitted ATM (total weight of trailer), not least because there are rear axle load limits which must not be exceeded and that would certainly be the case with a very heavy trailer non-steerable trailer and vehicle at GVM.

I have no concerns about using the FL2 hooks and commend LR on being one of the few manufacturers to provide these important safety devices.

Just a slight diversion.

Camel Landy - Mark

Where did you put rated recovery points on your Freelander 1. While OK for towing, I doubt the standard front tow hook would be suitable for snatch type recoveries.

Cheers

Garry

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Originally Posted by garrycol

Where did you put rated recovery points on your Freelander 1. While OK for towing, I doubt the standard front tow hook would be suitable for snatch type recoveries.

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On the slight diversions, the later model F1 has a different front loop than the earlier models, certainly my 2002 is heavier than earlier models I have looked at.
A couple of the LROCV trainers have looked at mine and had no concerns about use for typical recovery use.

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Originally Posted by SuperMono

the later model F1 has a different front loop than the earlier models, certainly my 2002 is heavier than earlier models I have looked at.

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Mine is one of the earliest F1s - 98 but actually made in 97.

Garry

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Originally Posted by garrycol

Where did you put rated recovery points on your Freelander 1. While OK for towing, I doubt the standard front tow hook would be suitable for snatch type recoveries.

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Hi Garry,

The front recovery points on mine were made by Safety Devices and are as follows...

There are 2x 3.5tonne tow jaws on a specially constructed 'A' frame. This 'A' frame runs down the front of the car and is bolted to the sub frame underneath (it's also what the bash plates are mounted to). It is also bolted to the front end of the chassis through a pair of extension posts which bolt to the chassis legs and then protrude through the bumper.

Make sense??

M

PS... Being a Camel, mine too is one of the very early ones. ;)

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Originally Posted by camel_landy

Hi Garry,

There are 2x 3.5tonne tow jaws on a specially constructed 'A' frame. This 'A' frame runs down the front of the car and is bolted to the sub frame underneath (it's also what the bash plates are mounted to). It is also bolted to the front end of the chassis through a pair of extension posts which bolt to the chassis legs and then protrude through the bumper.

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That is sort of how I figured it would go. No one spot would be strong enough though I thought the lower front below the main chassis where the aluminium undertray frame bolts to the front on the car under the radiator would be strong enough if a point was mounted on either side of the car and a load sharing bridle used during recoveries - I doubt one point by itself would be enough for high load snatches.

Garry

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Originally Posted by garrycol

No one spot would be strong enough though I thought the lower front below the main chassis where the aluminium undertray frame bolts to the front on the car under the radiator would be strong enough...

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Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. The 'A' frame bolts to there too... :D

M

I purchased my F2 11 months ago and the sales guy pointed to the front and rear recovery points and stated that they are off road recovery points. NevilleK

We've had our 08 f2 snatched out of very deep sand (sitting on it belly with all wheels spinning) on the front hook no problems. (Was before I worked out they go best with tyres below 13psi - darn low profile tyres)

I have used my rear recovery point to pull a glx landcruser wagon bogged to the pan in a roadside drain and the mud was like glue. Used a lifting sling and a dead pull and removed two and a half tonne vechicle with almost no effort and no wheel spin with my wheels sinking about 40mm into the ground . Sounds like whoever told you that they were not suitable is a mine saftey officer who issues written warnings for not having your top shirt button done up in 35 plus heat .
Doug