Tyre Poll...Advice/ Expertise Needed

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Originally Posted by Utemad https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...016/08/768.jpg
With 7-800 road kms per week I'd be getting a second set of tyres. Keeping the A/Ts for everyday and some muds for play. Otherwise you'll wear out the play tyres before you even get to play.

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Originally Posted by D3Jon https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...016/08/768.jpg
I'd second the idea of getting two sets. You will be doing a good few km's on road so a set of AT's might be best for that, then break out the spanners and fit the MT's for play time! :)

With such an open tread pattern, MT's put a lot less rubber in contact with the road surface, this means less grip in both the wet and dry which affects cornering and braking ability. It is very noticeable on a wet greasy road - but you adjust your driving to suit (i.e. slow down!)

nah stevo just want to look the goods when cruising the shopping centre carparks :D:D ;) :p:p

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Rightly or wrongly, weeds has kinda hit the nail on the head :p, though not so much shopping centre car parks ;). Once I have them on, I intend to be getting off road more often and to change over would be a pain, plus Im getting older ( 40's old right ??:)). Plus would need a 2nd set of rims, though I do understand the reasoning.

At this stage part of it will be my own learning experience, but also spent a couple of weeks driving Micks D2 with 285's Silverstones on in both wet and dry weather and found them fine to drive on. Looking at the poll the Maxxis look like they will be the go :cool:,

Regards

Stevo

I've got the 2 sets of rims(5 actually) and by the time I get around to swapping to the street tyres, it's time to go off road again, so havn't bothered. I've only stripped 2mm off since Feb in about 20 000k.
2 sets are nice but a waste if you don't change them.

CC

Definately go the second set of tyres for play only, you'd be surprised how much driving around on mud tyres all day around town adds to your fuel consumption. Add that to generally quicker wear rates when using muds onroad and poorer handling in emergency situations.
Then again, a second set of tyres + rims for a D2 is not exactly cheap......

Cheers, Phill

what no coopers we still think that coopers STT are crap wow tunnel vision :cool:

I am going to defend the BFG's.

I really rate them, admitedly they may not be quite as good as they used to be but I have had 2 sets on my 90 aswell as the standard General Grabbers and I really like them. (Bear in mind I 'used' to hoon around all the time and I have never felt that they were going to throw me off the road) They also transition from grip to no grip nicely and dont snap.

Wet handling is good, with the possible caveat of wet breaking with which a bit of care is needed, but no more than any other muddy. (and in my opinion they are better in this regard than the Grabbers)

Off road they get me everywhere I point the car, and I have only ever wrecked one, and had one 'normal' puncture.

Life seems to be about 80000km maybe more.

Cheers
Pete

Wilslt I dont have a great deal of experience in off road tyres, I can say that we have the general grabbers for daily use and now a set of the Fereral MT's for off road. Personally after a stint on road, it's nice to get the grabbers back on as their is no comparision for the handling that the AT or "more" street tyre gives. I wouldn't want to drive a few hundered km's on the MT's each week based on this either. The Fererals were great on the springs weekend and I dont think that I could have done half of what we did on the grabbers (or would have experienced a great deal of wear). I also looked at the MTZ's and may have done these if I wanted one set only.

So I guess two sets is the best of both worlds and it makes street driving so much easier...

Whilst I can see the pluses of running 2 lots of tyres, it is then weighing up the cost as well. 5 x MT=@ $1375.00, 4 x AT's say grabbers=$1280.00. Add rims- $1000....total $3655....(figures are approximates). In terms of kms travelled, I go to Brisbane and back at least 3 times a week...call it 500kms. I have done it in the D3 with HP's and Grabbers, the D2 with current crap AT's on it and Micks D2 with Silverstone muddies in a 285/75 in dry and wet weather. There's not much difference at 110km on cruise control. In terms of handling, I already drive to suit being in a 4WD and whilst it would be great to run 2 sets, I can't justify the cost or the hassle. Plus no doubt some MT's will have better on road manners than others. So at this stage the Maxxi's are still the front runner,

Regards

Stevo

Ive always wanted to try Simex Jungle Trekker 2's (just because they look cool).

Ive run BFG AT's and liked them (But I mainly do sand driving) and I also have a set of Maxxis Buckshots, that I bought back when Maxxis were really cheap. I was really happy with these aswell (that is untill the S3 blew up), the Maxxis muddies will be going on me RRC next time I get a chance.

Stevo,

Had Maxxis Muddies (Buckshots though one down from Bighorn), for about 2 years, (prob 45,000k) and very happy with them. They handle fine on road (including the wet), aren't that noisey at all. Mine is a daily driver too, they have worn pretty well considering there has been wayyy too much on road and not enough off road:D
Off road I couldn't fault them, they seem well constructed, hold well, and have a decent open pattern that doesn't seem to clog in slop.
Not sure how the sidewalls compare to others. I have taken a bit of rubber off on rocky sections where the tyre gets kinda wedged, and they don't like it when the missus continually grinds the gutter when parking :mad: (but what does).

2 sets of rims are a great idea but....PITA changing them(especially for lazy folks :wasntme:, discos look faggy with road tyres:D and no good if you want to shoot off the highway or take a random quick trip or detour.

Not sure if you know a good supplier on the Coast, or if the club has a contact, I can recommend Artic Cool Treads (Tyrepower) at Rocklea. Very knowledgable,into 4wding and always excellent on price and service.

Cheers ;)

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Originally Posted by MickG

If it's muddies only stevo and knowing the sort of driving you do, I would focus on the onroad characteristics including tyre wear. I'd go for a harder compound tyre and i'd be fairly happy (given the comments) that most of the tyres you're looking at would go well off road given the sort of off road driving you do and want to do.
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Aye, Mick

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You can still have soft tyres for traction and longevity, but to get this you will have to move away from the traditional carbon black tyres and look for Silica compounds - these were the next generation of tyre construction from about 7 years ago, and are soft for traction and long wearing.

I run Goodyear MTR's which were about the first serious Silica tyre and probably still one of the few. I've had the same set on for years and years as my daily drive and touring tyres (I use Simex offroad) and they have been excellent. Offroad they perform really well in my opinion for what is an open pattern tyre. They are not a mud tyre as such, but are not far behind in the performance of a mud when in the mud, lacking the lateral stability and some drive, especially for an "All terrain" tyre. The carcass is strong on them which is particularly important for touring work and their load rating is excellent. The edge lugs are angled which seems to quieten them compared to most muds and it also means that the low speed vibrations from when square (eg, BFG MT, MT MTZ etc) lugs contact the road, especially when cornering. The Silca compound is looong wearing and it gives good traction on dirt, and on wet or dry bitumin despite not having any sipping in the pattern. I would buy these again, but I would also look at the X-terrain, MT MTZ and the Radial Trepador.