Lower alcohol limit to 0.02

Apparently if you're a footballer like Allan Langer in Brisbane who went DUI 0.156 or Ben Tupou from the Newcastle Knights, who went on an assault charge you can get off with no criminal conviction and a fine. So the Police can do their job and put these clowns before the court and they are let off because, "a criminal conviction will seriously jeopidise their football careers". Allan Langer did have his licence suspended for a few months but its obvious there is one law for the Rich or Famous and one law for the rest of us poor sods!!:mad:

0.05 is designed for you to have a few beers and safely drive leaving it up to the average punter to try and work out how many standard drinks he has had over how much time etc and then establish if it is worth the risk driving.

The 0.02 limit is effectively 0.00. The 0.02 is so that you are not going to be booked for having some food cooked with alcohol which is unfair.

the 0.02 system is actually correct. It leaves no margin for error. If you have had a drink, your over the limit. The decision to drink and drive a very easy one to make, dont.

There was a licenced driver stopped, breath tested and recorded a high range reading, 3 times in the one night, in the same car in Dubbo last weekend.

And the NRMA want to reduce the limit. Obviously the current system isn't working and should be fixed first.

Erich

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Originally Posted by steve_35

I think they should lower the limit to 00

Everyone does the same thing they think because they feel fine after 2 beers so does everyone else

Thats not the case i hardly ever drink alcohol and 2 beers gets me buzzing

And i assume it has the same effect on other people that dont drink much

But i can keep drinking as the laws stand until i am either noticeably drunk or over the limit

And dont be fooled you dont need to over .05 to get done for drunk driving as most people believe

If your noticeably drunk it called driving under the influence and you will be nabbed


When something has a different effect on each user then you cant just pick a number and say that's it

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So if you go and have 2 beers and are drunk and then drive the police can charge you with drink driving anyway... explain again why the limit needs to be dropped?

Regards,
Tote

So that its not left up to an individuals discretion to judge if your drunk

It is simple get the Highway Patrol fully staffed and with enough money to pay for fuel every day of the year, not just at the beginning of the month.

Then have them out on the road doing their job instead of sitting in the station doing paper work.

Then tipple the fine if the offence is challenged in court so people will think twice about challenging the minor offence they were charged with so the officers can be out doing their job instead of being in court.

Insist that the Highway Patrol pull people over for offences like fog lights in fine weather, broken stop lights and clear globes where amber globes should be fitted.

More use of ANPR cameras and link the database to licensed drivers at the same address. If the car/address does not have a licensed driver of the correct sex as the driver of the car, pull it over.

Everything that makes the chance of an unlicensed or over the 0.05 limit driver getting pulled over being almost guaranteed instead of the chance of being pulled over almost negligible.

When was the last time you saw a Highway Patrol car out doing it's job?

Daily, weekly, monthly?

It should be frequently every day!

When was the last time you saw a Highway Patrol car out doing it's job?





I take you must live in a City

I live in the country and i see them every day almost trust me they are there even if you dont see them

Just ask a Truckee if there are cops on the highways

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Originally Posted by steve_35

Just ask a Truckee if there are cops on the highways

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Ask the truck driver that ran my wife off the road two days ago (overtook and pulled back to the left while alongside), then drove at speeds of up to 120 kph while weaving over the centre and left lines of the lane. Then tailgated another truck so closely that he followed it off the left side of the road when the leading truck pulled over to let him past.

I live in a country town in Victoria and I drive to Adelaide and back at least once or twice a month (430 km each way). The sort of driving I witnessed is not uncommon. There is nowhere near enough visible Police presence on the roads to have a deterrent effect. I am not having a jab at the Police either, it isn't their fault.

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Originally Posted by Ausfree

Apparently if you're a footballer like Allan Langer in Brisbane who went DUI 0.156 or Ben Tupou from the Newcastle Knights, who went on an assault charge you can get off with no criminal conviction and a fine. So the Police can do their job and put these clowns before the court and they are let off because, "a criminal conviction will seriously jeopidise their football careers". Allan Langer did have his licence suspended for a few months but its obvious there is one law for the Rich or Famous and one law for the rest of us poor sods!!:mad:

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Perhaps kids do it because their sporting heros get away with it. If the law came down heavy on those in the public eye, perhaps less kids would copy their heros.

just my two cents worth.

I'll second (or third) the motion about the highway patrol. We travel between Sydney and Canberra quite a lot - if there are cops out, which is rare, the patrol cars are always parked in the same places and seem to be just a mobile camera platform. I've been tailgated and flashed by trucks at 110kph only to have them slow to 80kph on the next hill where I pass them again - they fall back out of sight but somehow manage to catch me again before the next hill, even though I'm sitting on 110 with the cruise control on. I've never seen a police car on that stretch of road after 9pm - which is when the trucks from Melbourne are hitting the Cbr-Syd area it seems.

I will say that the booze bus is very good around my area (Syd Nth beaches) - they have a couple of areas where you cant dodge them and they are there almost every Thur, Fri and Sat night. Amazingly enough, they still catch people. They seem to be doing a good job in that regard. I even had one police woman come over to the cab I was in to check if the driver had paused the meter - very nice of her! Now if they could stop people getting stabbed with broken glass in the pubs at Manly we'd be right...:angel:

Cheers,

Adam