Reply With QuoteWant indisputable proof of global warming
Wizard
Willem - you continue to miss the point. How does a person putting forward their own point of view result in them lacking credibility?
Again, it was not a debate. If you want both sides of the story dont listen to a programme that is about only one side.
Again, I dont think you have listened/read the entire programme - I can only assume that you are one of the people that so violently disagree with this point of view that you cannot bring yourself to hear it.
Cheers,
Adam
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Want indisputable proof of global warming
YarnMaster
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be careful what you wish for!Originally Posted by B92 8NW
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they say fashion goes in cycles..
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Our future will be more about living with climate change than it will be about stopping the human derived part of it. What's more dangerous than human made climate change? Human made poverty. And nobody makes poverty like a lefty.
There is no way I'm going to waste my time tuning in to a bunch of scientists handpicked by the ABC trying to figure out why the ignorant unwashed won't roll over and be pushed around. Quick answer, nerds, is they're not so stupid as you want them to be.
Wizard
SubscriberPerhaps we can get the debate into an area a large proportion of forum participants are interested in. This forum is after all an automotive interest based site.
What about comment on the real cost to the environment of producing a Prius, or any of the other so called 'green' vehicles.
What a cynical exercise in political pandering. Why else would they make them. Almost as good as the solar propaganda one of our larger petrol manufacturer/retailer's has plastered all over their outlets.
The perception certainly to me, is they have to have something out there to satisfy the populace, with a ' look at me, aren't I good'.
As I have already said, the arguments for climate change are not being articulated to the population in a fashion we can understand, and the science is being lost in point scoring battles for political reasons, which only adds to the cynicism of the population at large to any facts or data so presented.
Let the debate continue !
ChatterBox
I've already decided to get a Hybrid for my next car
So, what is the real cost to the environment of producing a Prius and how is it different from other cars?
And who's carrying out the cynical exercise in political pandering and why are they doing it?
Your complaint about point scoring for political reasons sounds like "the pot calling the kettle black" to me.
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