$90 for bottle of beer

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Originally Posted by Spenboyd

any of the Little Creatures offerings

locally owned and brewed about 2 kms from my house and just plain better. As a relatively committed home brewer I will always support the people who actually put in and are passionate about what they produce as opposed to the wonders of modern chemistry knocked out by the multinationals

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I might consider some of the local "boutique" beers when they are as good as Carlsberg Elefant, Tuborg Paskebryg, Fakse Fadol, Schwelmer Pils, Kozel, and are no more expensive.

I agree with the comment in this thread that the "boutique" beers are aimed at the free-spending youth market in the over-priced pretentious yuppie pubs and the late night club scene. Quality and taste are a secondary consideration to image and market position.

The best local small brewery product I have tried is Moonshine Brewery Scotch Ale 8.3%. It is a very good drop, if expensive. Knappstein and Pepperjack from the Barossa are pretty good too. Once again, they are expensive. Most of the others that I have tried, I would not bother buying again. To me they were either pretty ordinary or had an "odd" or "peculiar" taste and overpriced. Much like a lot of poor to ordinary home brews.

I like Pepperjack too. That's a nice beer.

Dont mind Little Creatures either but it is spendy. And since I spilt diesel on a carton by mistake I have gone off it a bit

Kronenburg 1664 would be my choice for my preffered beer

I'm surprised knowones mentioned James Squire, I think they are a nice range of beers, on par with Coopers Vintage, also the Lord Nelson at the Rocks in Sydney makes a nice drop too, they now bottle, Redback is a nice drop as well, Dogbolter, although quite expensive.

Boags is probably the best of the larger brewary beers.

Baz.

Well, I consider James Squire are now high volume mainstream products like Coopers.

Coopers and James Squire are probably the best volume production beers in Oz to my taste.

Few of the lesser products are available in the more remote areas. I have asked for Coopers and others in outback pubs and got either a blank stare and a "what's that" or a "nobody out here buys that stuff so I don't stock it".

One Western Queensland publican told me that nearly every time he allowed a rep to talk him into taking some of the "boutique" beers he ended up drinking it himself.

Fortunately in Kalgoorlie with the number of pubs and bottle shops we have here, there's a fair bit of competition and we have a pretty good choice to sample.

My personal favourites are Boags Premium and Rogers (a Little Creatures dark beer). I agree with others' comments on Crown - bogan's "high class" beer. Though recently on a minesite where the choice was somewhat limited, I found Crown Gold to be not a bad drop.

I'm another who doesn't mind some of the Little Creatures products (though not all of them). Until recently, I had a flat in Fremantle less than 5 minutes walk from their brewery. As well as producing some good beers, it's also not a bad place to go for a feed - but that's a bit of a local secret.

As for the better known "mass produced" Australian beers - no thanks. There's a reason why more Fosters is sold overseas than in Australia. :twisted:

And anyone who thinks that they know how to brew beer in Queensland - well all that I can say is that I tried "Powers" - once. :wasntme:

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Knappstein and Pepperjack from the Barossa are pretty good too.

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For someone who has previously claimed that the only drinkable beer in OZ comes from QLD, and that boutique beers are for yuppies, you seem to drink a lot of low volume/boutique beers from other states. (coopers and boags are much lower volume than the main brew in each of the mainland states).

In Germany, there isn't much difference in the price of beer. It varies between maybe e10 and e15 for a case (10L). Including mist microbrewery beers. That would mean that boutique/low volume beers wouldn't be more than $45-50 a carton.

The difference in Germany though, is that most beers aren't sold outside a 100km radius of where they are brewed.

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

I might consider some of the local "boutique" beers when they are as good as Carlsberg Elefant, Tuborg Paskebryg, Fakse Fadol, Schwelmer Pils, Kozel, and are no more expensive.

I agree with the comment in this thread that the "boutique" beers are aimed at the free-spending youth market in the over-priced pretentious yuppie pubs and the late night club scene. Quality and taste are a secondary consideration to image and market position.

The best local small brewery product I have tried is Moonshine Brewery Scotch Ale 8.3%. It is a very good drop, if expensive. Knappstein and Pepperjack from the Barossa are pretty good too. Once again, they are expensive. Most of the others that I have tried, I would not bother buying again. To me they were either pretty ordinary or had an "odd" or "peculiar" taste and overpriced. Much like a lot of poor to ordinary home brews.

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Whoo hoo..Im a free spending youth hanging at yuppie pubs and night clubs........................hang a tick......Im a fat dad with 5 kids watching a dvd on a friday night :D.

I like boutique beers....bit like buying meat from woolies or meat from the butcher where the beef is local. Of course it is going to be more exxy.......its a volume thing. Volume of anything is not going to be the same as a niche product. Think again...Macca's versus fine dining. My volume beer of choice is Stella's. I also drink Beezneez, Red Back, Hoegaden and a range of other beers. Always fun to try different ones. We have a local brewery here that brews a cracking Heferweizen.

Time to crack a coldy,

Regards

Stevo

I don't know why young people who want to go somewhere nice and drink something decent are getting a hard time here.

I'd be really surpised if a boutique brewery got started up borrowing millions on refurbishment etc with the mission of make a fancy place where we rip off pretentious people. Give people some credit for sincerity.

I'm not young and I'm too old to worry about an image but if I walk in to a city pub and don't see wide choice of beers on tap, particularly craft beers from the local area, I know I'm walking into an establishment run by people who don't take what they do as seriously as I want them to.

australias highest awarded top shelf beer happens to be Coopers Sparkling Ale....correct me if I'm wrong, then call Glenn Cooper and tell him. It certainly isnt Crown Lager.....good grief.....

wow can't believe this has gone on to the third page must be a record Muddymech!!